Assessment & Moderation


Establishment of (NAETDP) National Association of Education Training Development Practitioners.

This topic contains 86 replies, has 59 voices, and was last updated by  Skills Universe 2 years, 1 month ago.

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  • #42100

    Seiso David Shasha
    Participant

    Dear members presently I am representing SANGOCO at ETDP SETA on the Levy Chamber and in accordance with the NEW Constitution of the Education, Training and Development Practices Sector Education and Training Authority (ETDP SETA) the Board with the approval of the Minister of Labour, has established the following chambers:

    1. Schooling Chamber (Private & Public)
    2. Further Education & Training (FET) and Technical Vocational Education and Training (TVET)
    3. Higher Education & Research Chamber
    4. Early Childhood Development (ECD) & Adult basic Education & Training (ABET) Chamber
    5. Education Training & Development Practices & Provisioning Chamber

    The function of each Chamber is generally to advise the Board and create a platform for policy debates and discussions to enhance the work of the ETDP SETA for impact on the ETD sector.

    (27-30 July 2009) Initial consultative session to discuss the following matters pertinent to the functioning of these chambers:

    • Shape and size of the chambers
    • Roles and Responsibilities of the chambers
    • Allocations of seats

    Our Relevant Chamber is =Education Training & Development Practices & Provisioning Chamber.

    • Constituency members are:
    o Training Providers,
    o Assessors,
    o Moderators
    o and Facilitators.
    • Training Providers will participate through their organized body APPETD (Association of Private Providers on Education Training Development)
    • I therefore propose to members that let as established our own National Association which shall be the body that represent the interest of Assessors, Moderators, Facilitators and SDF’s.
    • With this National body we shall have rights and power to delegate people who shall represent on this new chamber at ETDP SETA and any other body which shall cater for our needs.
    • I am attending two meeting on the 29 and 30 July for ECD and ETDPP Chamber so it will be very important for members to respond to this as soon as possible.
    • The proposed name of the Association is (NAETDP) National Association of Education Training Development Practitioners.

    Members I hope you will find this in order.

    David Shasha

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  • #42174

    Sounds like a good idea – especially for independents as we have no means of participation yet are vital to the system and have to carry out decsions whcih we have had no say in.

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  • #42173

    Hi David,

    Brilliant, at last we will have platform where we will have a say and raise our concerns.

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  • #42172

    Hi
    Very interesting and I would like to be part of such a group once established.
    regards
    fanie

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  • #42171

    Helene Strauss
    Participant

    Great initiative, David! I would like to join once established

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  • #42170

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I certainly would like to be part of such a group!
    Kind regards
    Ansie Fourie

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  • #43630

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I certainly would like to be part of such a group!
    Kind regards
    Ansie Fourie

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  • #44641

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I certainly would like to be part of such a group!
    Kind regards
    Ansie Fourie

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  • #42169

    sylvia hammond
    Keymaster

    Hi David,
    Many thanks for posting this update for us. You can see by the responses that there is a lot of support behind you. I would also want to join once the Association is established. Good luck and keep up the good work.
    sylvia

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  • #42168

    Dear David

    You have my support. An association like this is much needed to voice our challenges.

    All the best in implementation.

    Prem Bachan

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  • #42167

    David,

    I have read your itinerary with interest and sincerely hope that through your representation of SANGOCO that you will made inroads into the ETD SETA policies and procedures. Please feel free to contact me if you require any assistance in the fields of my experience as follows:

    1. Schooling Chamber (Private & Public)
    2. Further Education & Training (FET) and Technical Vocational Education and Training (TVET)
    3. Higher Education & Research Chamber
    4. Early Childhood Development (ECD) & Adult basic Education & Training (ABET) Chamber
    5. Education Training & Development Practices & Provisioning Chamber

    Kind regards
    Elfrieda

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  • #42166

    Hi David
    This is good news. Would love to be part of this

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  • #42165

    Nigel Shipston
    Participant

    Hi David,
    Definitely in. Perhaps you could also look at my discussion regarding ETQA Practitioners who carry out Provider evaluations (Whats good for the goose …..). They are part of the process, possibly the most important part, yet they are uncontrolled and unmonitored. Let me know if I can assist in any way.

    Nigel Shipston

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  • #42164

    Hi David,
    As Sylvia said judging by the positive response you have received it is a great idea. Obvioulsy we all want to be part of it and join in to enhance what we are doing already. I owuld love to see a bit more action from Government as Promises over the past years have been the order of the day and yet we are still talking about skills development. Well done to you nd all the very best and if you need any assistance you can count on us at the ENTRUST MANAGEMENT ACADEMY in Cape Town. Rahman Murtuza

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  • #42163

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Can you please keep me updated as I would like to be part of such a group

    Regards
    Brian

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  • #43629

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Can you please keep me updated as I would like to be part of such a group

    Regards
    Brian

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  • #44640

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Can you please keep me updated as I would like to be part of such a group

    Regards
    Brian

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  • #42162

    Sounds interesting and I would like to believe that I can delivered a good insight from the private sector, representing the SMME’s as a ISDF.

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  • #42161

    Great initiative David.

    I will definately want to be part of this .

    Keep us posted.

    Regards
    Kumaran Gungarajoo

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  • #42160

    Hi David,

    Great idea you have there. I also would like to be part of it once everything has been finalised and approved.

    All the best with the establishment.

    A.

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  • #42159

    As an independant service provider I am also very interested in this initiative. Keep me posted.
    Thanks for your initiative, David.
    Karen

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  • #42158

    Dear David,
    I support your brilliant initiative and would love to become a member when everything is up and running. If you need assistance in the Western Cape (Cape Town Metropolitan Area) please do not hesitate to contact me: rory@augmentis.co.za

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  • #42157

    I would definitely support your group.

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  • #42156

    PS. I’m in the Eastern Cape, so if you need help in this region contact me: judyjvr@mindz.co.za

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  • #42155

    Dear David

    this is a good initiative, would like to be a member

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  • #42154

    Excellent.This is the right way forward and long overdue.I certainly would like to be part of the Association.

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  • #42153

    Hi David…..you can count me in. This is an idea that has taken too long in the making….Well done!

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  • #42152

    Hi David

    this will be great! We are looking forward to this body ,please keep us updated
    Milty

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  • #42151

    Great initiative and it has my full support.

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  • #42150

    I think that even if practitioners are stationed at an organisation, they need to be identified by belonging to such a group. Just as SACE registration is compulsory for the idenfication of registered educators, so too should practitioners ini the ETDP field be represented at ssome level – or thier valuable contribution to the skills upliftment in the country will go unrecognised, and any input lost. So YES!!!! Lobby for that.

    Regards,

    Roger Peters

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  • #42149

    Good morning

    I am very interested in becoming involved in this – pleae let me know how I can

    Regards

    Gizelle

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  • #42148

    Hi there,

    I support this fully and would be happy to participate from the Western Cape (and/or nationally) as I travel a lot. There is an SDF association already (ASFDSA) and there may be other relevant societies so we may have to do some research en route. Let me know how I can participate and what the next steps are.

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  • #42147

    I was always under the impression that the Association of Skills Development Facilitation of South Africa (ASDFSA) was the umbrella body looking after the interests of ETDPs and SDFs?
    Mike Stanton

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  • #42146

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I AM DELIGHTED BY THESE NEWS AND WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO BE PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS(DISCUSSIONS,IMPLEMENTATIONS AND THE LIKES)
    WARM REGARDS
    KHUDUGA

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  • #43628

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I AM DELIGHTED BY THESE NEWS AND WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO BE PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS(DISCUSSIONS,IMPLEMENTATIONS AND THE LIKES)
    WARM REGARDS
    KHUDUGA

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  • #44639

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I AM DELIGHTED BY THESE NEWS AND WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO BE PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS(DISCUSSIONS,IMPLEMENTATIONS AND THE LIKES)
    WARM REGARDS
    KHUDUGA

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  • #42145

    This looks like an excellent idea. Keep us updated.

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  • #42144

    Ashwell Glasson
    Participant

    Dear David,

    Well done on this wonderful initiative and for your earnest call to the practitioners. I would appreciate joining the association when it gets up and running. I am more than willing to sign some kind of formal document supporting it creation. Your presence and engagement on the chamber would be crucial and any assistance or input from my end of things to support you is only a pleasure.

    Kind regards
    Ashwell Glasson

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  • #42143

    Janelle Gravett
    Participant

    Hi David
    Fantastic inititive and long overdue. Would really like to be part of the group and will be happy to assist at any time.
    regards
    Janelle Gravett

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  • #42142

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    It is very brilliant proposal for all people in involve in Skills Development especially assessors and moderators to fall under certain organisations and air the views,problem they experience on their field working with different SETA’S.

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  • #43627

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    It is very brilliant proposal for all people in involve in Skills Development especially assessors and moderators to fall under certain organisations and air the views,problem they experience on their field working with different SETA’S.

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  • #44638

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    It is very brilliant proposal for all people in involve in Skills Development especially assessors and moderators to fall under certain organisations and air the views,problem they experience on their field working with different SETA’S.

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  • #42141

    Jennifer Williams
    Participant

    I would love to be involved- am based in the Western Cape. Thank you for sharing this with us.

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  • #42140

    Sonja Nel Hygro Training Delmas

    I would also want to join once the Association is established. Good luck and keep up the good work.
    Sounds like an good idea and lets go forward!!!

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  • #42139

    Jan-Harm Lindeque
    Participant

    “Good idea” You have my support on this,I would like to be part of this process from start, please let me know where I can help or if there is any seats open. Thank you for this

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  • #42138

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Davi’s proposal makes perfect sense to us. May he continue to give updates on the latest developments.

    Thanks.

    Mzi Mngoma
    084 607 4263

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  • #43626

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Davi’s proposal makes perfect sense to us. May he continue to give updates on the latest developments.

    Thanks.

    Mzi Mngoma
    084 607 4263

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  • #44637

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Davi’s proposal makes perfect sense to us. May he continue to give updates on the latest developments.

    Thanks.

    Mzi Mngoma
    084 607 4263

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  • #42137

    I think it’s awesome, what I wanted to find out as well was that my company,as a training provider, do we qualify to attend these meetings?

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  • #42136

    Excuse the duplication if someone has already suggested this, but I recommend contacting Gill Connellan from ASDFSA for assistance in this – she is very knowledgeable about local ETDP and SDF associations, and will also ensure that we do not replicate 2 different associations, both attempting to do the same thing!

    Mike Stanton

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  • #42135

    i think this is an oppotunity for us to ensure that we participate in the shaping of our education. Our input will add value and we will be part of the transformation process.

    Calvin

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  • #42134

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Thanks for this. Very keen on the idea of representation for assessors, moderators and SDFs. All the best for the discussions that lie ahead.

    Sharon

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  • #43625

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Thanks for this. Very keen on the idea of representation for assessors, moderators and SDFs. All the best for the discussions that lie ahead.

    Sharon

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  • #44636

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Thanks for this. Very keen on the idea of representation for assessors, moderators and SDFs. All the best for the discussions that lie ahead.

    Sharon

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  • #42133

    I am supporting the concept of create opportunities to these funtionaries and willing to assist.

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  • #42132

    Hi David

    Congratulations – as everybody has echoed – long overdue – you have my support. Keep up the good work. Help is at hand if you need it.

    Edwina Hadfield

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  • #42131

    Cassandra Julius
    Participant

    Hi David!

    This definately sounds like an exciting initative.

    Would definately like to get involved in any way I can.

    Take Care,
    Cassandra

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  • #42130

    Andrea Mammes
    Participant

    Sounds good to me!
    Andrea Mammes

    Nigel Storm Shipston said:

    Hi David,
    Definitely in. Perhaps you could also look at my discussion regarding ETQA Practitioners who carry out Provider evaluations (Whats good for the goose …..). They are part of the process, possibly the most important part, yet they are uncontrolled and unmonitored. Let me know if I can assist in any way.

    Nigel Shipston

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  • #42129

    Excellent idea and one that I would like to be a part of, so please keep me in the loop.

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  • #42128

    Hi David,

    This is a great idea / proposal which is long overdue.Your proposal is excellent.I would definitely like to particiapte in future group discussions.New ideas would inject new life and hence create a more sustainable and value-adding platform for the future.

    Regards
    Pat Pillay

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  • #42127

    Hi David,

    I would definitely be interested in contributing into this valuable initiative, and joining your team.
    Perhaps you should set up a feedback session on the results from the discussions?

    Thanks
    Karen

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  • #42126

    Joseph Kotsokoane
    Participant

    Good idea. Will allow full particupation of skills development practitioners in decision-making which directly affects them. A matter of concern! how will the establishment of this association link with or affect ASDFSA?

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  • #42125

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    David
    Please count me on board in any way that I may be able to provide input.
    I have been out on a limb since my return to SA – pretty tired of trying but truley hitting my head aginst a brick wall. I have a huge amount of experence in occupational /workplace learning. I have a MA in Professional Training and Development from the UK, which was an outcome based post grad qualification and included inter alia the study of VET.
    Before my brain atrophies completley please allow me to share and contibute to the way forward for workplace training in SA.
    Linda

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  • #43624

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    David
    Please count me on board in any way that I may be able to provide input.
    I have been out on a limb since my return to SA – pretty tired of trying but truley hitting my head aginst a brick wall. I have a huge amount of experence in occupational /workplace learning. I have a MA in Professional Training and Development from the UK, which was an outcome based post grad qualification and included inter alia the study of VET.
    Before my brain atrophies completley please allow me to share and contibute to the way forward for workplace training in SA.
    Linda

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  • #44635

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    David
    Please count me on board in any way that I may be able to provide input.
    I have been out on a limb since my return to SA – pretty tired of trying but truley hitting my head aginst a brick wall. I have a huge amount of experence in occupational /workplace learning. I have a MA in Professional Training and Development from the UK, which was an outcome based post grad qualification and included inter alia the study of VET.
    Before my brain atrophies completley please allow me to share and contibute to the way forward for workplace training in SA.
    Linda

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  • #42124

    Gert Calldo
    Participant

    Hi David,
    Great idea ! Would like to be part once established.

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  • #42123

    Hi David

    You can count me in. Excellent!!

    Wynand

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  • #42122

    Hi David

    I think this a great idea, the link we have been waiting for. Im also interested in joining.

    Regards
    Thembi

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  • #42121

    Seiso David Shasha
    Participant

    Hi ! Mike Stanton

    1. I have study main purpose and main object on Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Association
    for Skills Development Facilitation in South Africa.
    I have discovered the following:
    Association Purpose and main object are:
    1.1. Promote enhancing the standing of SDF’s.
    1.2. Represent SDF’s.
    1.3. Promote interests of SDF’s.
    1.4. Providing education and training of SDF’s
    2. We have two options:
    2.1. We amend Articles of Association to cover us as Facilitator, Assessors and Moderators.
    2.2. Or we established new Association as suggested.

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  • #42120

    I am wholly in support of such an Association. Please bear in mind that public training providers are not members of APPETD. We need a national forum too. As assessors, moderators and facilitators, the NAETDP would be the answer.

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  • #42119

    sylvia hammond
    Keymaster

    Hi Seiso,
    Thanks for that information.
    I have a question about a previous organisation – PAASA I think it was Professional Assessors Association of SA – there was a branch in Gauteng and for a while a branch in Cape Town chaired by Kiru Truman. Do you know what happened to that association? Or can other members assist?

    Seiso David Shasha said:

    Hi ! Mike Stanton

    1. I have study main purpose and main object on Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Association
    for Skills Development Facilitation in South Africa.
    I have discovered the following:
    Association Purpose and main object are:
    1.1. Promote enhancing the standing of SDF’s.
    1.2. Represent SDF’s.
    1.3. Promote interests of SDF’s.
    1.4. Providing education and training of SDF’s
    2. We have two options:
    2.1. We amend Articles of Association to cover us as Facilitator, Assessors and Moderators.
    2.2. Or we established new Association as suggested.

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  • #42118

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Wonderful idea! Definitely would like to be a part of this group.

    Thanks
    Robyn

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  • #43623

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Wonderful idea! Definitely would like to be a part of this group.

    Thanks
    Robyn

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  • #44634

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Hi David

    Wonderful idea! Definitely would like to be a part of this group.

    Thanks
    Robyn

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  • #42117

    Anonymous

    Hi David,

    This sounds like a breath of fresh air and it’s been long overdue. I would be really like to be part of this group.

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  • #42116

    I also seem to remember that Assessment College had a moderators’ forum.

    sylvia hammond said:

    Hi Seiso,
    Thanks for that information.
    I have a question about a previous organisation – PAASA I think it was Professional Assessors Association of SA – there was a branch in Gauteng and for a while a branch in Cape Town chaired by Kiru Truman. Do you know what happened to that association? Or can other members assist?

    Seiso David Shasha said:

    Hi ! Mike Stanton

    1. I have study main purpose and main object on Memorandum and Articles of Association of the Association
    for Skills Development Facilitation in South Africa.
    I have discovered the following:
    Association Purpose and main object are:
    1.1. Promote enhancing the standing of SDF’s.
    1.2. Represent SDF’s.
    1.3. Promote interests of SDF’s.
    1.4. Providing education and training of SDF’s
    2. We have two options:
    2.1. We amend Articles of Association to cover us as Facilitator, Assessors and Moderators.
    2.2. Or we established new Association as suggested.

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  • #42115

    Great Idea David keep us posted
    Dina Porteous
    DITASA

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  • #42114

    Hi David,

    I just saw this idea. Please count me in.

    Sithembile Khoza

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  • #42113

    Hi David,

    Great idea. Please count me in.

    Sithembile Khoza

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  • #42112

    Hi David,

    I really like your idea and would love to join once it is established! 🙂

    Keep up the good work,
    Veruschka

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  • #42111

    Hi David,

    This sounds like a great idea. Please keep us updated.

    I would also like to be a part of this group.

    Regards
    Dale

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  • #42110

    Sounds great David,

    Thanks for sharing this info.Please count me in.
    Contact me at ruthweb@gmail.com

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  • #42109

    Awesome initiative… Would love to be a part of this Association. 🙂

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  • #42108

    Margie Cunnama
    Participant

    Great idea – I look forward to hearing more.

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  • #42107

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    you have my 100% support chief

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  • #43622

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    you have my 100% support chief

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  • #44633

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    you have my 100% support chief

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  • #42106

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I agree that it’s a great idea. Let’s harness all this postivity to be a true force for change!

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  • #43621

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I agree that it’s a great idea. Let’s harness all this postivity to be a true force for change!

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  • #44632

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    I agree that it’s a great idea. Let’s harness all this postivity to be a true force for change!

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  • #42105

    Des Squire
    Participant

    Sounds good. Keep us posted.

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  • #42104

    Hi David I m so intrested in the organisation NAETDP please if it is approved please send me all the details of registered as full memmber

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  • #42103

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Dear David

    I like the idea, and would like to be part of such a group once established (Hein Brand – brand@workmail.co.za)

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  • #43620

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Dear David

    I like the idea, and would like to be part of such a group once established (Hein Brand – brand@workmail.co.za)

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  • #44631

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Dear David

    I like the idea, and would like to be part of such a group once established (Hein Brand – brand@workmail.co.za)

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  • #42102

    This is a fantastic idea as we now have a forum whereby we can share ideas, brainstorm and network within the industry.

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  • #42101

    Hi David
    I have only stumbled on this in September, but I would be very keen to join/become part of the forum . Please keep us all in the loop as to your progress.
    Barbara Jones

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