Concerned Providers Interest Group – QCTO/SAQA/SETA/DHET


Submission of concerns to DHET Minister

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    • #70009
      Lynel Farrell
      Keymaster

      Hi everyone,
      For the past 2 years, I have worked with various Employers/Accredited Providers/SDPs with regards to the DHET application for registration. Majority of providers have expressed their concerns and discontent of the elongated process from date of submission to the DHET Private Colleges Department to actually getting to the registration phase, which seems to be absent. In order to address these concerns and dissatisfaction of this lengthy and costly process, it is time to address the concerns to the DHET Minister, Naledi Pandor for relief, a better process, quicker turnaround time, acknowledgement of the private sector and their uniqueness in the education industry.

      I am compiling a submission of concerns to Minister Naledi Pandor (DHET), and the following items are included, for urgent solutions and action. The concerns listed, effects majority of accredited providers nationwide, and it is time to take a final step, to voice our concerns. The listed concerns in summary are:
      1. Non-awareness and poor communication from DHET regarding the compulsory application for registration with the DHET.
      2. DHET application form and guidelines (FPX-01) outdated (10 years old), does not cater for private colleges/skills development providers/accredited providers and not user friendly at all.
      3. DHET Private Colleges Department’s poor/non-communication regarding feedback on applications receive, going back as far as March 2017.
      4. DHET turnaround time of application from submission to registration is taking longer than 2 years to finalise, whereby specific documents expire, and need to be re-couriered to the DHET at the provider’s expense.
      5. Continuous red tape from DHET, whereby all required documents have been submitted to the SETA(s) and/or QCTO in order to remain compliant, have been approved by SETA/QCTO, but not by DHET Private Colleges Department.
      6. The cost of submitting the DHET application, is far greater than the R500.00 non-refundable application fee paid to the DHET Private Colleges Department.

      This is the start of the list which is being drafted. In order to get relief and better communication from DHET, and a quicker fair application for registration, we need at least 500 Accredited Providers (SDPs) to support the concerns. If you are in support of the submission of concerns to be addressed to the DHET Minister, please forward the following details, which will be listed in the submission to the Minister as supporting the concerns for action and consideration:

      1. Name of Business:
      2. Year started trading:
      3. Province:

      The final draft of concerns will be posted on a closed group: LFCSA

      You are more than welcome to join this group, which focusses on DHET and QCTO requirements only.

      How do we get 500 businesses (providers) to support the concerns going to the Minister? Any suggestions?

      Should you not wish to place your details in the public domain, you are more than welcome to forward your details to: LYNEL@LFCSA.COM OR LYNEL.FARRELL@GMAIL.COM

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    • #70011
      Lynel Farrell
      Keymaster

      Happy Human Rights Day!
      “Education is a human right with immense power to transform. On its foundation rest the cornerstones of freedom, democracy and sustainable human development.” – Kofi Annan, Seventh Secretary-General of the United Nations, 1997 – 2006 and Nobel Peace Prize recipient

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    • #70015
      Menet Hamel
      Participant

      1. Name of Business: Goldberg, de Villiers & Myburgh t/a Global Business Solutions
      2. Year started trading: 1993
      3. Province: Eastern Cape

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      • #70016
        Lynel Farrell
        Keymaster

        Thank you Menet, for your support, it is appreciated!

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    • #70019
      Lynel Farrell
      Keymaster

      Hi everyone, just a quick thank you to the accredited providers, who have sent me their details in support of the submission of concerns that I am drafting to the Minister. The goal is to have 500 accredited providers supporting this submission. Thank you to the 30 providers that have come on board. We are short of 470 ……………..

      Thus far only 30 accredited providers feel that the DHET application for Registration takes too long, little feedback from DHET, have been on the applicant list for some time, and have not received their Registration Certificate as yet.

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    • #70022
      Lynel Farrell
      Keymaster

      Did you know, that according to the DHET’s Register of Private Colleges dated the 20th March 2019, the following number of Accredited Providers received Registration from the DHET:

      In 2017 – only 4 Accredited Providers received DHET Registration
      In 2018 – only 51 Accredited Providers received DHET Registration
      In 2019 – only 7 Accredited Providers received DHET Registration thus far.

      If we look at the DHET List of Applicants dated 7 March 2019, there are 2388 Accredited Providers that have applied for registration, going back as far as March 2017 and still awaiting feedback. This is one of the concerns that will be addressed with the Minister. Surely application for registration should have a maximum turnaround time of 6 months (from date of submission to receiving your DHET Registration Certificate).

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    • #70046
      Lynel Farrell
      Keymaster

      Good afternoon all Accredited Training Providers (SDPs). We are busy drafting concerns to the DHET Minister, regarding the long process of applying for registration with the DHET, and need to get support from at least 500 Accredited Providers. Please help us reach the goal. The survey will take you 3 minutes. Let’s spread this, and get involved. Thank you for your support, to get answers, a positive outcome and a fair, transparent process (our goal).

      https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScm5HnND3HrKWokXWvTss8UDcNdTA28oGZV3GlxY6vjxqUYKQ/viewform?vc=0&c=0&w=1&usp=mail_form_link

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    • #70047
      Suzanne Hattingh
      Participant

      Thanks for this much-needed initiative, Lynel. The same problems are experienced by Private Higher Education Institutions that I assist with CHE accreditation. Even after the quite lengthy process of receiving CHE accreditation and SAQA registration of the qualification, we are still waiting for DHET registration – with no response after 2+ years. I will encourage these providers to support your appeal to the Minister

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      • #70054
        Lynel Farrell
        Keymaster

        Thank you Suzanne and Des for your support, it is really appreciated. The list is slowly getting momentum. Please feel free to share the survey with others! Thank you!!

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    • #70051
      Des Squire
      Participant

      AMSI and Associates cc – Registration date is 2009 – Gauteng based.

      Well done Lynel – keep up the good work

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    • #70055
      Renee’ McGibbon
      Participant

      Hi Lynel,

      Many thanks for your initiative. I am in full support!!

      1. Name of Business: Prestige ETD Group t/a SETA Accreditation Services
      2. Year started trading:2013
      3. Province: KZN and Gauteng

      Warm regards

      Renee’

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      • #70065
        Lynel Farrell
        Keymaster

        Thank you for your support Renee, much appreciated!!

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    • #70073
      Lynel Farrell
      Keymaster

      Update on support, we have not even reached the 150 mark as yet, and the goal is to place/list 500 Accredited Provider names, no matter how big or small, at the end of the submission, which will show the Minister that industry is supporting the concerns being submitted. We cannot complain and continue to discuss the frustration of the lengthy unfair process, if we don’t do something about it. The survey will be used, to give the Minister stats in summary. Please understand, completing the survey does not cost you anything, but to complete it. No fees or funds are required, in order to show your support. Please take 2 minutes to complete the survey, and show your support. Thank you

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