Concerned Providers Interest Group – QCTO/SAQA/SETA/DHET


SETA/QCTO ACCREDITATION – QCTO Circular 1 of 2017.

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  • #64533

    Nigel Shipston
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    By now everyone will have seen the Circular 1 from QCTO. This is the genuine article and is also available on the QCTO website. What it means is that essentially if you are a SETA accredited provider, your accreditation is now valid until either the last date of enrolment or achievement listed on the qualifications, skills programmes and or unit standards for which you are currently accredited.
    As most providers are accredited for unit standards and/or skills programmes, your accreditation will be usable and valid up until the last enrolment date of the unit standards and/or skills programmes for which you are currently accredited, which in most cases is 30 June 2019. For those accredited for qualifications, this date is extended to 30 June 2022, being the teach out period between enrolment and achievement.
    If at the stage of these unit standards/skills programmes reaching June 2019 and not having QCTO Ocupational Qualifications or part qualifications to replace them, the unit standards/skills programmes may be extended.
    In communication with QCTO, I quote the following:
    “For an example, if your (one year) accreditation status expires 31 December 2017 and the expiry date of the qualification linked to the skills programme you are offering is 30 June 2018, then your accreditation status remain active to enrol/train learners until the last learner enrolment date which is 30 June 2019.”
    This effectively means that all originally upcoming re-accreditations are no longer necessary and accreditation is automatically extended until the last date enrolment/achievement as listed on the qualifications, skills programmes and or unit standards for which you are currently accredited.
    New accreditations against historical qualifications, skills programmes and or unit standards will be conducted by QAP’s (ETQA’s), but after June 2018, will have to go through QCTO. This is however subject to QCTO Occupational Qualifications or part qualifications not being available to replace the historical qualifications, skills programmes and or unit standards.
    When an Occupational Qualification has been registered, it is expected that any accreditations will then be done through QCTO against that registered Occupational Qualification.
    It seems that those involved in creating this transitional period between SETA and QCTO accreditation have considered the circumstances within our environment and applied reasonable processes to accommodate providers. While perhaps there are still issues to be addressed in this transition, the current process is “do-able”, so let’s be prepared.

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  • #64534

    Lynel Farrell
    Participant

    For those, whom have not seen the Circular, here it is. This is published on the QCTO website.

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  • #64536

    Tando Qeqe
    Participant

    Kindred spirit

    I think where we heading is, all those accredited will be inherently accredited by QCTO. The correct motive of using this transition process seem to be too tedious and starting to bite back at DHET proposal.

    This definitely poor process design,all of this could have been avoid and a better method designed.

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    • #64537

      Nigel Shipston
      Participant

      Hi Thando,
      This was the original intention from many years back, to address the varying SETA accreditation processes to which providers had been subject as a result of inconsistency in the application of accreditation guidelines. Those with a number of accreditations will be very aware that SETA’s developed their own systems of accreditation, which are so varying as to cause providers to run separate systems for each SETA. The intention is to introduce a single accreditation body, QCTO, so that this situation no longer exists. Had the SETA’s applied consistent processes among themselves we may not have needed this change, but that was not to be.

      We have been aware of this process for many years, but thankfully, it has not been rushed, unprepared into a new system. Perhaps a little sanity has prevailed in that the process has been slow, but deliberate, allowing QCTO to attain a standard against which they can operate effectively. Yes there are still issues to be addressed, but in general, we have never been disappointed in the value and approach of QCTO. Certainly in comparison to the treatment meted out to providers from SETA’s, QCTO is a far more reasonable, participative and supportive organisation, as was originally envisaged for SETA’s by SAQA.

      For my part, having nearly twenty years of experience with SETA accreditations, this may be a change, but definitely for the better.

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  • #64538

    Lynel Farrell
    Participant

    I agree! The number of discussions we have had over the years, the continuous complaints about every Seta with different rules and stipulations made it so difficult for providers. It is about time to move to one process, a set standard! The QCTO is working hard to meet all expectations. Yes, it has taken years to get to where they are now, but they are improving all the time. We need to embrace the change, work with the QCTO and communicate on a regular basis!

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  • #64544

    Celeste Jacobs
    Participant

    Hi Nigel,
    Please can you just clarify. We only offer the Facilitator, Assessor and Moderator Unit Standards. If our accreditation status ends next year are you saying that we will automatically be re accredited with the ETDP seta until the 30 June 2019 when the Unit Standard expires. I assume we will still need to follow up and get a re accreditation letter from the ETDP?

    Am i correct in understanding that following 30 June 2019 we will then need to be accredited by QCTO? And then finally we still go ahead and submit everything to the DHET that was requested earlier this year?

    Sorry about all the questions but your help is hugely appreciated.

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    • #64545

      Nigel Shipston
      Participant

      Hi celeste,
      No problem, that is what we are here for!

      First, your accreditation is automatically extended to the last date for enrolment or the last date of achievement, depending on whether you get enrolments before the last enrolment date and carry out the training/assessment during the teach out period permitted by the relative unit standards. Indirectly, you are accredited by QCTO already, it has just been delegated to the SETA’s during the QCTO build up period. The Circular gives you the necessary authority to continue until either the last enrolment date or last date of achievement. Whether the SETA’s are going to issue letters to this effect is unknown, but ultimately QCTO is the authority to which SETA’s must answer.

      Second, as and when QCTO Occupational Qualifications are registered that suit your purposes in replacing your existing historical qualifications, then you should apply to QCTO for accreditation. If however we reach the last enrolment date and there are no replacement Occupational Qualifications or part qualifications for your purposes, then QCTO will consider extending the historical qualifications for which you are currently accredited.

      Effectively, whether new QCTO Occupational Qualification or historical qualification, from the end of June 2018, all new accreditations will go through QCTO.

      Third, DHET registration application is a completely separate issue and still a statutory requirement, to be done by the end of November 2018.

      Hope this helps?

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  • #64546

    Nigel Shipston
    Participant

    If you have any need for further clarity you are welcome to mail me at Nigel@jc1-2016.com

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