Concerned Providers Interest Group – QCTO/SAQA/SETA/DHET


Are you Really an Accredited Training Provider?

This topic contains 8 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by  Lynel Farrell 2 weeks, 1 day ago.

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  • #68557

    Lynel Farrell
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    Why am I so concerned??

    According to a SAQA published document in 2016, it was noted, that there were 12758 accredited providers (the stats is from 2014) – and only 2121 training providers have made the list of the DHET as at 31 October 2018 – the DEADLINE of this compulsory application to register with the DHET is: 30 November 2018. So if no training providers closed down, and NO new providers have applied for accreditation, then this would mean that we are sitting with 10637 Training Providers NATIONWIDE, who have not submitted their applications as yet. Should we be worried? Have you seen the consequences on page 10 of the DHET guidelines? Yes, go and read that short paragraph, it is serious.

    What is more of a concern, is that the stats of 2014 recorded 118 536 registered assessors alone, now think about the bigger picture – these are individuals who are either employed or contracted by the 10637 training providers who have not submitted their applications to the DHET as yet.

    If we look at the DHET’s Lodged List of 18 September 2018 (total applicants 2077) against the most updated DHET Lodged List of Applicants – published 31 October 2018 – with 2121 listed training providers – this means that only 44 applications were received in 43 days? I cannot even think of 50% of training providers that would make the deadline at this stage.

    All in all according to the number of providers recorded in 2014, it indicates that a mere 16.62% of providers have submitted the compulsory application to register with the DHET since March 2017.

    Did you submit your application, and if not, why not?

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  • #68561

    Frikkie Stoltz
    Participant

    morning lynel

    Thanks for your vauable input. where can we find list of the DHET as at 31 October 2018 –

    appreciate

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    • #68564

      Lynel Farrell
      Participant

      Good Morning Frikkie, please do the following:

      1. http://www.dhet.org.za
      2. Click on Resources
      3. Under Documents, click on Registers
      4. Click on the second pdf document: List of Private Education and Training Institutions that have lodged applications with DHET (31 October 2018)

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  • #68565

    Lynel Farrell
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  • #68566

    Nigel Shipston
    Participant

    While nobody seems to have any accurate figures on the number of private training providers in SA, there is more than enough evidence to indicate that there are closer to 10 000 or more, as opposed to the 2 000+ on the DHET list. Unfortunately, despite our efforts, the problem of communication between authorities and training providers remains the major stumbling block in this Registration process.

    The whole Registration process to date has been a constant reconsideration of applying outdated legislation and documentation, and a lack of appreciation of the private training provider environment. In short, DHET was totally unprepared for implementing this Registration process despite the recommendations of a White Paper which suggested that the private provider environment should be researched and implementation prepared in terms of this research.

    To top it all, the communication process has been horrendous. When implementing a process of this magnitude and importance, it is surely appropriate that effected parties be notified accordingly, with accurate and true information. The truth of the matter in this case is that while information has been filtered to private training providers by SETA’s, among others, the majority of this communication has been subject to misinterpretation, whether intentional or not. The net result is that many providers have been led to believe that Registration is not applicable to them, or that Registration is not a legal requirement.

    It would be both unfair and inappropriate for DHET to maintain their 30 November deadline under these circumstances. We were advised in June already, that DHET would implement a communication process via their SETA liaison department to ensure that better communications be disseminated to private training providers. This is not yet apparent. While we were, and remain committed to assisting in this process, the current situation comes back to a simple matter – if the current deadline is maintained, literally thousands of private training providers stand to lose their businesses and face fines.

    This gives rise to many questions. Can DHET justifiably close down “non-compliant” providers under the circumstances described? Does DHET have the resources to address thousands of “non-compliant” providers? I have said it before. The majority of committed private training providers are more than willing to maintain compliance standards, but in order to do so, there needs to be sufficient, reliable communication informing them of the requirements.

    It is sad that some almost 2 years after the initial announcements of Registration, the relevant authorities have still not reached the vast majority of private training providers. It would be interesting to hear from DHET on their plans regarding the private training provider Registration.

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    • #68569

      Lynel Farrell
      Participant

      Nigel, do we continue trying to make the DHET aware? I have been sent a message from DHET, whereby they have indicated that I need to urgently forward my concerns to the DDG and specific Management today. The question is, do we have support from providers to continue getting a fair process for all?

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  • #68570

    Nigel Shipston
    Participant

    Hey Lynel, as before, we do what needs to be done. We do have many supporters already, and no doubt as this process proceeds, there will be many more. Without the proper knowledge of actual requirements it is difficult for providers to appreciate the situation. If we do not keep DHET enlightened, the situation can become untenable for the majority of private training providers in SA, through no real fault on their part.

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    • #68571

      Lynel Farrell
      Participant

      okay, then we submit an urgent notice to DHET Top Senior Management. Here we go again.

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  • #68572

    Lynel Farrell
    Participant

    Our URGENT concerns and request have been sent to DHET To Management including Deputy Minister. We will advise the feedback and response.

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