Services Seta signs MOU with UK FET?!?


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  • #5752

    Marianna Bibbey
    Participant

    Just saw the latest NEWS on Services Seta,

    They have signed an MOU with a UK Based FET to capacitate 10 local FETs

    – but WHY?

    What could the UK based FET provide better or more

    than a Private FET in partnership with the Public FET locally cannot already provide for?

    IS the Setas in their endeavour to capacitate Pupblic FETs just IGNORING LOCAL resources already accredited by them?

    Im CONFUSED?

     

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  • #5772

    Marianna Bibbey
    Participant

    The Document from the website…

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  • #5771

    Tom Ventouris
    Participant

    I know of many institutions who have a 100% success rate. All of these are based right here in SA with a unique perspective on local culture and challenges. Assuming their success rate is not by chance, they too have a succesful model.

    Interesting that SSETA would choose to ignore the institutions they accredited. Is there something wrong with this SETA’s quality assurance and accreditation process?

    At the risk of being accused of suffering from the “not invented here syndrome”, I do believe that local challenges should be left to local experts, and we certainly do have them.

    Logging off to consider if I have just had my daily dose of humour or frustration.

    If anyone is interested in purchasing some of my imported wines, frozen potjioekos or biltong, contact me.

     

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  • #5770

    David Screen
    Member

    Why is everybody confused? It’s much easier to get a kickback from a UK-based organization than an SA one.Somebody’s brother’s cousin lives in the UK now and has swung the deal…    

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  • #5769

    Sounds very odd – we need to work locally and improve education here………….

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  • #5768

    Nita Wandrag
    Member

    An international accreditation perhaps..  so that more of our talent can leave the country?  

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  • #5767

    Astounding… absolutely astounding!

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  • #5766

    That sounds about right David! There are hundreds of local courses and qualifications accredited by SAQA – why not use local? Who is going to pay for learners to go on these courses? 

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  • #5765

    Unfortunately these courses will not entice people to leave the country. The UK is in such a state currently that leaving here to find work there is like jumping from the frying pan into the fire!

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  • #19474

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Have any of you actually tried working with the Services SETA? They probably should go down in the records as being the most useless organisation in the history of mankind.  So, a dumb decision like this doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

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  • #36636

    Skills Universe
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    Have any of you actually tried working with the Services SETA? They probably should go down in the records as being the most useless organisation in the history of mankind.  So, a dumb decision like this doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

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  • #5764

    Skills Universe
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    Have any of you actually tried working with the Services SETA? They probably should go down in the records as being the most useless organisation in the history of mankind.  So, a dumb decision like this doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

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  • #43151

    Skills Universe
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    Have any of you actually tried working with the Services SETA? They probably should go down in the records as being the most useless organisation in the history of mankind.  So, a dumb decision like this doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

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  • #44192

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Have any of you actually tried working with the Services SETA? They probably should go down in the records as being the most useless organisation in the history of mankind.  So, a dumb decision like this doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

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  • #6065

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    Have any of you actually tried working with the Services SETA? They probably should go down in the records as being the most useless organisation in the history of mankind.  So, a dumb decision like this doesn’t surprise me one little bit.

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  • #5763

    Anonymous

    Jacqui. You just made my day. I could not say this better. You just won yourself 10000000000 points with this. They USELESS, so why even bother.

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  • #5762

    Johan Venter
    Participant

    If you have an overseas travel budget to spend, there’s no point in looking for a local private FET as a partner.

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  • #5761

    Arlene Walsh
    Participant

    As a matter of fact, the UK FEt sector is light years ahead of our public institutions, in terms of quality provision, throughput, accoutnability, business like ethos …

     

    So the MOU is not surprising to me, and, indeed, I know of MOUs signed by some individual public FET colleges here and other UK FET colleges. 

     

    Watch this space for further developments!

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  • #5760

    BUYISELWA GELESE
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  • #5759

    I can confirm that a comprehensive 3-year project was approved by the Services SETA Administrator in 2012, planning the capacitation of public TVET colleges against a number of critical needs.  The model looked to use private TVET colleges as facilitators of the change process, whilst moving themselves on to ground that would sustain their own future.  Following the departure of the Administrator, the new CEO froze all projects, including this vital TVET project.  When the CEO left months later, the Board ignored any attempts to revive the project.  They had had a “long and serious debate about it,” I was told by a Board member. Perhaps the UK needs the money, and SSETA has plenty of it?

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  • #5758

    Actually, Marianna, I think the document is an old one (2012), when Blackburn was going to attend to leadership needs of colleges.  A couple of other SETAs also signed a MOU with them.  Like the capacitation project, the Blackburn project was rejected by the CEO, and later the Board (I stand to be corrected).

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  • #5757

    Frank Smit
    Participant

    Well it raises a few questions for sure, like

    a) where it the tender for this work? Was there one?

    b) What does capacitate mean? Staff, Consulting or what?

    c) why are we importing expertise when we clearly have the local expertise to do this and have a balance of payments problem?

    d) why can the Services SETA not provide this support to the FET’s? Is this maybe because Blade got rid of the competent management there?

    d) why did Blade give the local FET’s new responsibilities (taking them away from private training organizations) if the FET’;s did not already have the capacity?

    This sounds like just another daft move in the continuing charade that is education in SA.

    Next step, let’s import maths teachers to uplift maths in the schools…..having got rid of a load of them not so long ago….

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  • #5756

    Wow!! This is so, soo sad!

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  • #5755

    Gavin Tonks
    Participant

    an exchange is always good and fresh and one forgets the many below par fet’s that have limped along

    we should welcome anything positive and a new energy because the stress and pressure of working in this environment that has a communist leader who ignores the process of education to benfit some vison of mindless voting masses only competant to sign their names for a grant and the fear to vote for anything else, for fear of loosing said grant

    we have lived in an incestuous bubble for far too long and need to understand their is a global economy and companies that have grappled with the current problems we have 20 years ago and could provide solutions that will reduce the school fee costs by half or even all

    it is not like we have tenderd and lost a revenue stream – we need anything that can blow the tedium out of this country from the education system and making educating a fun and exhilrating past time again

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  • #5754

    Steve Short
    Participant

    and beer Tom?  Need some South African beer… the stuff they produce here simply does not cut it 😉

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  • #19473

    Skills Universe
    Keymaster

    This was signed on 25 September 2012 – so two years old.  There is huge capacity within public TVET Colleges to support other TVET Colleges where there are specific needs.  It seems that achievement is not recognised in SA.  There are public TVET Colleges who have worked with most of the SETAs, business and industry over the last couple of years, has excellent financial management, has excellent pass rates, has good staff development strategies in place and have achieved consistently since the merger.  If the DHET can recognise the strength within the country, recognise good performance and use the internal expertise we will turn around the TVET sector in no time.

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    Skills Universe
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    This was signed on 25 September 2012 – so two years old.  There is huge capacity within public TVET Colleges to support other TVET Colleges where there are specific needs.  It seems that achievement is not recognised in SA.  There are public TVET Colleges who have worked with most of the SETAs, business and industry over the last couple of years, has excellent financial management, has excellent pass rates, has good staff development strategies in place and have achieved consistently since the merger.  If the DHET can recognise the strength within the country, recognise good performance and use the internal expertise we will turn around the TVET sector in no time.

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    Skills Universe
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    This was signed on 25 September 2012 – so two years old.  There is huge capacity within public TVET Colleges to support other TVET Colleges where there are specific needs.  It seems that achievement is not recognised in SA.  There are public TVET Colleges who have worked with most of the SETAs, business and industry over the last couple of years, has excellent financial management, has excellent pass rates, has good staff development strategies in place and have achieved consistently since the merger.  If the DHET can recognise the strength within the country, recognise good performance and use the internal expertise we will turn around the TVET sector in no time.

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    Skills Universe
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    This was signed on 25 September 2012 – so two years old.  There is huge capacity within public TVET Colleges to support other TVET Colleges where there are specific needs.  It seems that achievement is not recognised in SA.  There are public TVET Colleges who have worked with most of the SETAs, business and industry over the last couple of years, has excellent financial management, has excellent pass rates, has good staff development strategies in place and have achieved consistently since the merger.  If the DHET can recognise the strength within the country, recognise good performance and use the internal expertise we will turn around the TVET sector in no time.

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    Skills Universe
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    This was signed on 25 September 2012 – so two years old.  There is huge capacity within public TVET Colleges to support other TVET Colleges where there are specific needs.  It seems that achievement is not recognised in SA.  There are public TVET Colleges who have worked with most of the SETAs, business and industry over the last couple of years, has excellent financial management, has excellent pass rates, has good staff development strategies in place and have achieved consistently since the merger.  If the DHET can recognise the strength within the country, recognise good performance and use the internal expertise we will turn around the TVET sector in no time.

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    Skills Universe
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    This was signed on 25 September 2012 – so two years old.  There is huge capacity within public TVET Colleges to support other TVET Colleges where there are specific needs.  It seems that achievement is not recognised in SA.  There are public TVET Colleges who have worked with most of the SETAs, business and industry over the last couple of years, has excellent financial management, has excellent pass rates, has good staff development strategies in place and have achieved consistently since the merger.  If the DHET can recognise the strength within the country, recognise good performance and use the internal expertise we will turn around the TVET sector in no time.

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  • sylvia hammond

     Hi Sean, 

    Yes you are right about opportunities to become self reliant.  I’ve copied a report on the pilot projects to do just that. It’s a report by Bua News on the President’s reply to the SONA.  

    “Pilot projects to encourage self reliance among social grant supporters have been set up in some provinces, said President Jacob Zuma.

    President Zuma was responding to questions following last week’s State of the Nation Address (SONA) in Parliament on Thursday. The President was referring to the fact that close to 15 million South Africans receive social grants, 10 million of which are children.

     “By September 2010 in the Northern Cape, 16 976 people had been linked to income generating opportunities, 3 024 in Gauteng as well as 450 women and 182 young people in the Eastern Cape,” Zuma said.

     In the North West province in Bokfontein, 600 social grant beneficiaries have been linked to the local community works scheme programme, while in Dutyini village in the Eastern Cape, 39 women and one man, who are grant beneficiaries, are linked to a number of projects such as candle making.

    “Lessons from these pilot projects will enable better roll out of these programmes around the country. Another key poverty alleviation mechanism directed at children, is the subsidy ranging between R12 and R15 per child per day, for qualifying children from poor households attending Early Childhood Development centres,” explained Zuma.

    Zuma acknowledged that social grants were useful in the alleviation of poverty, but were by no means a substitute for rural development and employment creation.

    “To date, more than 400 000 children receive the subsidy in 16 250 centres registered with the Department of Social Develo

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