Request for interest to attend DHET meeting on my behalf


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    • #67907
      sylvia hammond
      Keymaster

      This week I received an email from DHET about the letter I sent to Minister Pandor, requesting my availability for a meeting on either the 11th or 12th October 2018. On confirmation, the DHET are requesting a meeting in Pretoria, and I indicated that for health reasons I would not be able to travel.
      As the invitation to the meeting could include skills-universe members, many of whom have raised similar concerns, and also contributed to the letter I sent, I agreed to request members of skills-universe, who would be prepared to attend a meeting on my behalf with DHET.
      I was also asked to suggest an Agenda, which I have created and attached.

      As a reminder of the original motivation
      This is the posting I made on the 1 May 2018:
      “After 18 years in skills development, this has been the most chaotic ATR WSP PIVOTAL report and plan submission season. In learning mode, I have developed a draft letter for submission to DHET and Minister Pandor containing what I believe are constructive suggestions to avoid a repeat of the experience next year.
      I would appreciate your suggestions for inclusion under the following headings:
      • submission date for ATR WSP PIVOTAL reports and plans
      • software systems used for ATR WSP PIVOTAL reports
      • ICT online training (e.g. webinars) on reporting systems
      • request for extension submission requirements
      • inter-seta transfers
      • B-BBEE scorecard correlation with SETA registration.”

      For further information, I have also attached the original letter, and I have attached an Agenda with suggestions for discussion.

      If you are interested in attending to take up these issues on our behalf with DHET, please respond indicating which of those 2 days you are available to attend and also respond with permission to disclose your name and email address to DHET, and they can then communicate with you directly on meeting time and venue.
      Thank you.

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    • #67911
      Ashwin Heerachund
      Participant

      Hi Sylvia

      I am located in Gauteng, and would be able to attend, if required. My fraustrations echo those of other members, as i report across multiple entities. The entire WSP/ATR reporting process could be structured very differently to ensure ease of use.

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      • #67915
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Hi Ashwin,
        Thank you – I will add you to the list. You are the second name I have. Are you available on both days?
        sylvia

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    • #67913
      Thabo Mokhachane
      Participant

      Good day Sylvia

      I am also available to attend on your behalf.

      Thanks

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    • #67914
      Thabo Mokhachane
      Participant

      Good day Sylvia

      I am also available to attend on your behalf. I am based in Atteridgeville, Pretoria.

      Thanks

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      • #67916
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Hi Thabo,
        That is excellent – thank you. You are name number 3.
        Are you available on both days?
        sylvia

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    • #67917
      Tom Swart
      Participant

      Dear Sylvia
      Unfortunately I am not available on those two days. Thank you for your invitation. Best regards – Tom Swart

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      • #67918
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Thanks for response Tom, so far I have Buyi, Ashwin, and Thabo.
        sylvia

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    • #67919
      Menet Hamel
      Participant

      Morning Sylvia,

      I would appreciate the opportunity to attend. I am available on the 12th of October.

      As an external SDF for many companies across multiple SETA’s I believe I would be able to speak to the inconsistency of the submission process as well as the varying requirements of each.

      I have also reviewed the Discussion Document, which proposes replacing the template of the WSP/ATR with the modified instrument referred to as the Workplace Skills Survey (WSS) and may be able to provide feedback on that also.

      Kind regards
      Menet Hamel

      Branch Manager

      Global Business Solutions

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      • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by Menet Hamel.
      • #67925
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Hi Menet,
        That is great – thanks. I will add you to the list – you are the fourth member. I will wait for tomorrow and then respond to DHET.
        sylvia

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    • #67926
      sylvia hammond
      Keymaster

      Hi Menet, Just another thought please will you see if you can add the Discussion document to this discussion, so that everyone can see it. I am not sure whether the system will give you the option to add documents – otherwise please mail it to me on sylvia@portalpublishing.net and I will add it.
      Thanks sylvia

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    • #67931
      Des Squire
      Participant

      Hi Sylvia, I can assist on the 11th if required. Unfortunately I will be training on the 12th.

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      • #67939
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Thanks Des, I have added you to the list with the date 11th.
        I have spoken to Sizwe today and explained that I have one person for the 11th and one person for the 12th as well as those for both days, so based on the availability of the DHET people, they can decide which day.

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    • #67932
      Valencia Ellse
      Participant

      Hi Sylvia,
      This is such an important opportunity to air our view of our experience at grassroots level. I would loved to have participated but unfortunately am committed elsewhere. Thankyou to those who have responded and thankyou Sylvia for your tireless contribution to Skills Development

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      • #67940
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Thank you Valencia, I appreciate your comment. I do firmly believe that we can make a difference via skills development. We will keep everyone posted.

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    • #67934
      Menet Hamel
      Participant

      Hi
      Discussion document attached as referred to above in my reply.

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      • #67941
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        That’s great – thanks Menet – much appreciated.

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    • #67943
      Zanele Tshabalala
      Participant

      Good day Sylvia

      Thank you for the invitation
      Please note that I am available on both dates to attend the meeting

      Kind regards,

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      • #67944
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Hi Zanele,
        That is great thanks. I have just sent off 6 names and I will ask them to please add you.
        sylvia

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    • #67945
      sylvia hammond
      Keymaster

      Dear all,
      Thank you for your willingness to respresent us.

      I will close this request off now.

      These are the names I have sent to DHET with your email addresses, and the proposed agenda. So Sizwe should be contacting you directly.

      I am sure that you will make a great representation.

      Both 11th and 12th October 2018
      Ms Buyi Buthelezi
      Mr Ashwin Heerachund
      Mr Thabo Mokhachane
      Ms Suzanne Hattingh
      Ms Zanele Tshabalala

      12th October 2018
      Ms Menet Hamel

      11th October 2018
      Mr Des Squire

      Thank you all – sylvia

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    • #67957
      Masilo Piet Mangena
      Participant

      Morning Sylvia

      I am also available to attend

      Thanks

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      • #67966
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Hi Masilo,
        Thank you – I have already sent off the list, but I will send an email with your name and email address and see if they can add you.
        Sylvia

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    • #67969
      Maryna Ritter
      Participant

      Thanx Sylvia, it’s crucial for ASDSA SDF’s going forward. I see some of our members there, they can provide feedback afterwards.

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      • #67979
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        Hi Maryna,
        Unfortunately, I have sent off all the names.
        I received an email tonight from DHET suggesting to me that the members should attend the roadshows.
        I responded that I will attend the CT roadshow, but the meeting arises from the letter I sent to Minister Pandor, and the answer I received from the Minister’s office was that DHET would contact me to obtain further details about my letter. (That was sent in May.)

        In response to the email I also indicated the roadshows are about the landscape and the new NSDS – not the content of my letter. The letter deals with issues covered by the DHET Discussion document. Issues of timing of submission of grants, and format of submission. That is WSP and ATR.

        Then I received an email back that was only a suggestion for members to attend. So the meeting will go ahead.

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    • #67970
      sylvia hammond
      Keymaster

      Please see attached – relevant documents sent to me by DHET

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    • #67974
      sylvia hammond
      Keymaster

      Further relevant documents from DHET- attached

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    • #67982
      Maryna Ritter
      Participant

      Thanx Sylvia – let’s chat on Friday at the roadshow.

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    • #67983
      Desani Moodley
      Participant

      I am willing to attend. I believe that there is huge gaps that can be ironed out in this meeting.

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    • #67985
      Des Squire
      Participant

      Hi Sylvia – I notice you say you received all of the documents from the DHET. Who was circulating the invitations etc., originally. Is this again a break down in communication from the powers that be??? Perhaps I am wrong?

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      • #67991
        sylvia hammond
        Keymaster

        HI Des,
        Well honestly I was really “!”£££”£” off when I received the email last night (not from the person I was dealing with) indicating that the members should attend the roadshows.

        The response I gave was – the correct spelling of my name is in my footer – that is not what the Minister said in her acknowledgement letter – the content of the letter relates more to the format and timing of the WSP/ATR system (the Discussion document V3 November) – and I’ve wasted my time doing what was agreed and requested.

        Then I had a quick response – the meeting will take place – the roadshows just a suggestion. (That was not clear from the first email.)
        Following the first mail, I also at the same time received the calendar of the provincial roadshows and the attached documents.

        So I thanked for the documents, indicated I would post them on skills-universe, and that I am intending to attend Friday – Insha allah – God willing.

        I have no idead of the hierarchy of all the people on the email copy distribution list, or either of the people who corresponded with me. Everything was going along very well, until last night.

        Quite frankly I am not interested in petty internal politics – if that is what is going on. I am interested in advancing skills development. If the meeting does not take place, I will communicate directly with the Minister.

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