Mandela Day and Skills Universe members involvement 68


I posted a suggestion yesterday that all members of Skills Universe should consider contributing a minimum of R100 to a fund for the improvement of one school in the Eastern Cape.
Sylvia has expressed her agreement and now I would like to know from others if they are prepared to contribute. I have suggested Sylvia manage the funds if she is in agreement to do so and those members in the Eastern Cape decide on what school is most deserving.
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68 thoughts on “Mandela Day and Skills Universe members involvement

  • Ian Webster

    I would not agree to shelving the idea.  I certainly have no knowledge of the Easter Cape schools, so have no constructive comments to make.  We have had one suggestion, and no negative comments on that, so I would say, go for it.

  • Des Squire Post author

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    Hi Jill

    Judging by the responses received I would suggest we shelve this idea – unless of course members suggest otherwise. I really do not anticipate a great response but i really appreciate your interest.  

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  • JILL COXON

    Byletts it is – I don’t know the Eastern Cape Schools but I am sure they wil appreciate any help they get.

    What is the decision on donations every month to keep the ball rolling or do we collect again next year on Mandela’s day – I am very keen on banking my R100 every month into the account – we can’t save the world but we can make a difference to a few students.

  • Des Squire Post author

    This is a final – final – absolute final request for suggestions related to the donation of the R4150 to a needy school . Sylvia has been requesting final suggestions for some time but to no avail. The final decision will be made by Sylvia within 7 days if no suggestions are received. Des Cross sugested – Byletts school near East London – any ideas or comment? This is the last chance to give your input and sugestions – speak now or forever hold your peace.

    Thank you to all who contributed – your effort is appreciated.  

  • Ian Webster

    Thanks, Sylvia, for running with this, and Des, for getting us up and involved.  Not that most of us have had to do anything other than part with a bit of cash, but it’s better than sitting back and watching what everyone else is doing. Thank you.

  • sylvia hammond

    Following Des’ suggestion for a collection to assist a school in the Eastern Cape, we managed to collect R4,200.14.  We now need to choose the school for the contribution.  If you are aware of an underprivileged school in the Eastern Cape that would benefit from some books, please contact me urgently.  Thank you.  

  • Des Squire Post author

    TODAY IS THE FINAL DAY.

    Have you made a contribution to the Skills Universe effort for mandela Day?

    If not – can you afford to donate R100? Less is also acceptable as is more.

    Skills Universe members have already donated nearly R5000 – can we increase this?

    Lets make our final contributions before the weekend. The bank details are 

    Account Name S F Hammond

    Standard Bank, Claremont Branch, Cape Town (if you need it the code is 025109)

    Account number: 27-530-628-3

  • Des Squire Post author

    The final drive is on and final contributions are called for now.

    Have you made a contribution to the Skills Universe effort for mandela Day?

    If not – can you afford to donate R100? Less is also acceptable as is more.

    Skills Universe members have already donated nearly R5000 – can we increase this?

    Lets make our final contributions before the weekend. The bank details are 

    Account Name S F Hammond

    Standard Bank, Claremont Branch, Cape Town (if you need it the code is 025109)

    Account number: 27-530-628-3

  • Des Squire Post author

    Hi Sylvia

    Perhaps we could give it one last push till the end of the month. perhaps Alan could send a final request. I am sure we can exceed the R5000 with a little more effort.

    Come on all you members lets have a small contribution. We get so much from Skills universe free this is a chance to give something back. Just my personal opinion – what do others think?

    Thank you also portal publishing for the donation of R1000.

  • sylvia hammond

    Hi to all members – so far we have R3,200.14 (the 14 cents is interest :).  We’ll keep collecting until Friday – so if you’d like to make a donation of  R67.00 – or any other amount you can afford – large or small please do so. 

    So far the only suggestion for a school in the Eastern Cape is from Des Cross – if you are aware of a school that could benefit please let us know.

  • Ashwell Glasson

    Hey Des, wonderful work. Sylvia, yourself and the other others contributing to this are doing something wonderful. Thank you very much for promoting this. We are clearing out a wetland next to Rondevlei next to an impoverished community, so we may not be contributing to your suggestion directly, but we have selected a cause that has immediate benefits to the community too. Thanks again you are a champion.

  • Des Squire Post author

    Thanks to all who have participated so far. Many of the latest comments are repetition of previous ones. Please read all comments but more importantly as Sylvia and others say – Let’s get some money first then we can take matters and concerns further.  

    Please make a donation to the Skills Universe Mandela Day fund. Details are:

    Account Name S F Hammond

    Standard Bank,

    Claremont Branch, Cape Town (if you need it the code is 025109)

    Account number: 27-530-628-3

  • Des Cross

    Thanks.

    We introduced 200 libraries into schools and distributed 400 000 books over 5 years in the late nineties.

    The project was successful when a teacher was identified by the school to champion the library and to make it accessible. This also involved intensive training and support for that teacher.

    If anybody in the Eastern Cape would like to offer this service then our donation will be well worthwhile.

  • JILL COXON

    I have deposited.  I agree that Sylvia should decide which school to donate to.  But why not have this as a on going thing, every month we could support a different school not just on Mr Mandela’s birthday.

  • sylvia hammond

    Hi Des, our idea was to ask those skills-universe members who are in the Eastern Cape to provide nominations.  So we will add your recommendation.  We would then list the schools on skills-universe, and then all members will be able to vote for the school they recommend.  But we need to collect the money first so we would also be able to identify what exactly we could contribute.  As we have recently been talking about books and schools without libraries, the more we collect the more books we could buy.  If we really had a large amount we could maybe add a small bookcase, but at the moment I think it looks like just books. 

     

  • Barbara Jones

    I agree we should have some sort of a plan, but let’s get the money together first while we identify a school and their need – I would be inclined to support a library but they must say what their need is. My donation is in. 

  • Alan Hammond

    Please make a donation to the Skills Universe Mandela Day fund. Details are:

    Account Name S F Hammond

    Standard Bank,

    Claremont Branch, Cape Town (if you need it the code is 025109)

    Account number: 27-530-628-3

  • timmalone

    I don’t think we need to complicate this unnecessarily. If we have to vote (or use any other democratic means) to make a decision, we may end up in a situation where we have the money, but it doesn’t get used because we take 6 months to agree on where to use it. Sound familiar?

    As Des Squire initiated this, perhaps he can make the decision?

  • Des Squire Post author

    To all who are enquiring about how the school will be chosen I suggested at the outset – in view of the time constraints – that Sylvia and her team make the final decision. This was not objected to and i am sure this is still the case. If we are talking about 20 or 30 thousand i would be concerned about making democratic decisions. Let’s just do this without too much fanfare this time and see how we go.   

  • Des Squire Post author

    Deposits will be welcome whenever but preferably before the 18th. So hugo Monday will be fine

    Thanks to all who have contributed so far. We get so much for free from Skills Univers we should strivbe to give this little token back. Who knows it may be the start of something great. Thanks again for the support   

  • Des Cross

    I worked for 20 years in the Eastern Cape, in disadvantaged schools. I would nominate Byletts school near East London. They are doing outstanding work there.

    To be honest, it is a great idea but, knowing the Eastern Cape so well, Ineed to know what process will you use to choose the school. It needs to be done properly and reasonably democratically.

  • Des Squire Post author

    Hi All

    Sylvia has posted the bank account details below. Please let’s have those donations today. 

    I have just deposited R200 – What can you afford? All donations welcome.

    (Should your bank require a code for EFT it is 025109 – FNB does)

  • sylvia hammond

    Hi to all, apologies for the delay – I didn’t realise quite how difficult it is to open an account these days! So I finally managed to organise an account in my name but it’s a separate Pure Save account.  The details are:

    Account Name S F Hammond

    Standard Bank,

    Claremont Branch, Cape Town (no code needed for Standard accounts but if you do need it, it is 025109 – probably with 2 noughts at the end)

    Account number: 27-530-628-3 puresave (apparently you don’t need to add the puresave, it will go through without it)

    Just to ensure that everything is above board, when the deposits have been received and we have paid out to what ever school or NGO is decided upon, I will post the statement on this Blog as well.  I have started with a R100 to open the account.

    Thanks for all the encouragement Des.  Now to communicate with all our contacts to contribute.  

  • Des Squire Post author

    The great news is that Sylvia has now managed to get a separate account opened for this venture.

    The details will be posted tomorrow as there is a 24 hour waiting period before the account can be used.

    That gives you time to approach your friend and colleagues to participate. Thank you Sylvia.

  • Des Squire Post author

    The initiative is progressing and Sylvia is in the process of opening the bank Account.
    We need many more participants. I am disappointed so few have responded so far. Please contact all your friends on Skills Universe and those not on skills universe who are in charitable mode and ask them to contribute. Sylvia I am sure will comment furhter today – I am in an RPL meeting so will not be available.

    Come on all – Let’s push this. We get so much for free from Skills Universe this is an opportunity to say thanky you and give something back.

  • hugo john

    Hi Alan

    I think it is a wonderful and fruitful suggestion that will go a long way to members community involvement.It  also shows the individuals commitment to education,training and concern. This will make the old African saying “it takes a village to raise a child” come true. Good one.Plse send further details.

  • Ian Webster

    I’m in.  It will be difficult to decide the most deserving, and our members may not be best placed to do so.  It may be best to work through an NGO in the area who could identify the needs and direct the funds. And perhaps our members could guide us as to which NGO to work with?

    As Siyabonga said, Bank details?

  • Des Squire Post author

    Thank you all for the responses received so far and for the willingness to contribute. I suggest that since this is a Skills Universe joint effort that the logistics and decisions related to what school etc be left in the hands of Sylvia and her team – assuming they are willing to do so. I am awaiting a response from Sylvia. Let’s do this and just keep it simple. Any members wishing to encourage others to participate please feel free to do so. The more we can donate the better. Thanks again.

    Depending on the response to this initiative we could make a decision about perhaps assisting a different school say every six or 12 months as suggested by Berend Buys.

    Des Cross makes some valid comments but on this occasion let’s just do it. If we feel it is a success then we can formulate something more structured and consider various options. 

  • Siyabonga Dilimeni

    Great suggestion Mr Squire, I am inn!

    Without wasting any time…

    We need to be making logistical arrangements… May i suggest that members in each of the participating provinces meet before/on Wednesday 11 July 2012 and provide feedback in the form of the 5W’s (Who, What, When, Why, Where)

    I can organise the Western Cape plenary together with other Western Cape based Skills Universe members.

    I am contactable on 081 508 1886 or siya.dilimeni@gmail.com

  • Moira De Roche

    I am happy that we support a school in the Eastern Cape. The Western Cape (where I am based) is so much better off – all of our schools have some computers. We can’t help everybody and should start where the need is greatest.

    We could spend all the money used for text books on computers and provide books electronically. If all our kids had computers and were connected, we could also share good teachers using virtual classrooms. The Minister of Communications, Dine Pule, says that everyone will be connected to the internet by 2020. Yikes, that is just way too late!

    Des Cross is right – “donation dumping” of computers gets no-one anywhere. That’s the reason Helen Zille started the Khanya project when she was the MEC of Education in the Western Cape.  She wanted all computer installations to be properly managed, and only new equipment to be installed.

  • Des Cross

    If only there was a movement in South Africa which would develop cheap learning materials and provide them to schools.

    The textbook industry is a R4 billion rand gold mine and with vested interests and rampant corruption.

    They rejoice when our governement changes the FET curriculum 3 times in 5 years. More profits.

    I would like to start an NGO which provides learning materials free to schools.

  • Des Cross

    I spent 20 years in the Eastern Cape and I have intimate knowledge of the problems there.

    Nelson Mandela persuaded big business to upgrade 48 schools in the former Transkei. The schools were chosen because of various factors such as poverty and the positive attitude of the staff.

    Once the school was completed, our input was that the teachers needed to be trained to use this new equipment and that teacher’s knowledge and skills in the subjects needed to be improved.

    Big business were not interested. All they wanted was a sign at the school to show their sponsorship. Over the years these schools produced results that were appalling, even worse than before.

    These efforts can be patronising and we need to have a good idea about what should be done. I suggest the deserving school be asked to come up with a properly motivated concept that can effectively improve the education of these children.

    So many times a school gets donated computers and software and then what?

    I spent many many hours of my free time showing teachers how to use science equipment and how to teach in their challenging environments. Perhaps that is what we should do. Donate our time!

  • Mitchell Messina

    As an educational consultant I have been doing school improvement for the past 10 years. What I have learnt is that unless the School Management Team (principal, deputy and HODs) take ownership and responsibility for the improvement, nothing is going to change. You can bring all the money in the world to most of our previously disadvantaged schools but without commitment and buy in from the whole staff nothing will change. Word of warning: be careful when you want to invest in schools especially in the Eastern Cape.  

  • Nadia Gamieldien

    That is a good idea. We have been assisting various organisation with the development and improvement of primary schools and homes for abandoned and abused children. Foundation phase learning is a valuable steeping stone for future development. Could we implement your idea in the Western Cape?