Hi all. I thought I'd warn you about some bad business practices doing the rounds.

I was contacted by a company in Durban and asked to fascilitate some courses here in Cape Town. All went well for the first couple of times. Everything that was agreed on was delivered on both ends.

However in November i was approached again to deliver a course at E-TV which i duly did as per my normal professional way. now that payment is due i'm being ignored, calls are not returned and just plain silence.

all my attempts to contact the person is in vain. the one time i did get hold of her she spun me a story that someone else was suppose to pay me.

I'm deliberately not mentioning the name of the company in a last ditch effort to get attention. E-tv is now contacting me to get hold of this person who was paid in full by E-tv but who refuses to pay me.



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Comment by Gordon Kgopang Tlhale on December 11, 2011 at 16:22

Always ensure that you have a written contract signed by both parties before delivering any service. All conditions must be spelt out including how and when you will be paid. Your story does not disclose whether this was in place if this is the case then you can resort to the legal route which will be expensive but will more than not bring you desired results.

Comment by Nqobile Mlandeli on December 8, 2011 at 11:05

Hie David.

Good news and congratulations!!! We however hope such practices will come to an end, and by the way, everyone who gets involved on professional platforms will have to understand that they ought to be bound by ethics --- and I mean Good Ethics!

Comment by Irene James on December 8, 2011 at 8:02

F A N T A S T I C!!  We need more pressure like this to route out the rot!  Good one on you, David.

Comment by David H. Swartz on December 8, 2011 at 7:36

Good morning all

Thank you so much for all your feedback and suggestions with regards to my non payment dilema. I took everything onboard while still trying to resolve the issue amicably. 

It went from no responses to the most unbelievable story to ...........guess what..........PAYMENT.

I received a bank notification this morning that payment was done.

I woould like to believe that the pressure this group suggested brought people to their senses and I thank you all for your input. I will however not be doing any work for the provider as I have been given the run-around for far too long. since payment was done I believe I did the right thing by not naming names. You can however contact me privately should you wish to verify information.



David H. Swartz

084 477 1747 

Comment by Natalie Delport on December 7, 2011 at 20:18

Hello David.

I am sorry to hear about your bad experience.

What does trouble me, is the fact that is being mentioned, which undoubtedly sets them in negative light. I have just been appointed as the General Manager for Training and Development at and although I only officially start in January, I have some senior in-house contacts that will help me to get some answers. Can you email me the full story and that provider's contact details?

Kind regards,


Comment by Nqobile Mlandeli on December 7, 2011 at 17:49

This sounds challenging. So besides blacklisting or probably dragging them to court, are there any better ways of protecting ourselves against these exploiters? 

Comment by Rufaz M Mavhure on December 7, 2011 at 17:05
Flies don't go where egg is not broken! If you are scared to name and share your bad experience email confidentially to me.Thanks to all your inputs.After legal and other stakeholder views we will publish. Yes we are poor but let's not be intellectually suppressed with the "HAVE". Why claim to train and develop when practically we do not practice good business ethics ?
Comment by Paul Germain on December 7, 2011 at 16:25

Meeting in person at least gives a "face" to the transaction but even then I have had the experience of completing the work and still there has been no payment. The excuses become endless. I am sure that many many providers and colleagues have been subject to this inexcusable behaviour....surely there is protection!!

Comment by Nqobile Mlandeli on December 7, 2011 at 13:26

Hie David. What a bad experience! Was the deal sealed electronically or it was the normal physical way? I have a contract that i sealed with one training company which we did electronically, i am still fortunate that nothing like that has happened yet. Maybe we should now start consider meeting our contractors in person and make an effort to know their physical offices so that in such events, we can pester them in their offices. 

Comment by Juliet Camilla Gillies on December 7, 2011 at 10:08

Hi David, I think I got caught by the same lady. Please e-mail me at If it is the same lady, we both need to put her name up here.




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