"Sorry no idea what went wrong with my post: In December 2012 the Minister called a halt to the redevelopment of all quals as he wanted to satisfy himself that the QCTO could be tasked with handling all levels of the NQF. The relevant parties had six…"
"The PMG was scathing in its response to the QCTO annual report, and despite the chairman of the PC stating that the QCTO must take over the QA function, I would dearly love to know how they are going to do so successfully at this point. Perhaps the…"
"Great thanks Joe - understood.
Yes, if you could make progress on the de-registration I believe that would significantly "clean-up" - and also be some indication of progress.
I am in the process of re-writing my…"
My apologies for the tone - I posted earlier to questions that was raised by Lynel on the matter of the extension of existing qualifications and what the SAQA Board decided, so I was not sure what other writing was…"
"Thank you Joe, that is exactly what I said - the function was delegated to the SETAS.
If the dates have been extended then it would be nice to have this communicated by SAQA - that is all nothing else. I understood a globular extension could not be…"
A call for help to SETAs, SAQA, QCTO and DHET have been tried. In order to get concerns heard in the QCTO environment, member support is required to forward our cry for help to the Public Protector. We can only stand together, support one another and hope for a positive outcome. The time has come to stand together.See More
The extension of existing qualifications is from the 1 July 2015 until 30 June 2018. All qualifications have a start date and and end date. So all those existing qualifications with the end date of 30 June 2015 will be re-registered for a…"
"Dear Joe, I think we need the decision to roll the qualifications over or reregister them in some kind of official communique. Not sure if that would be possible, but it certainly would be helpful and put a lot of people's minds at rest. I was…"
"Mr Samuels, thank you so much for taking the time to communicate with us, I am sure that many members have been glued to the information that came through today. Your information today has had a great impact, and well received with…"
"Hi Joe, I've copied your previous response to Lynel into this discussion as well for those who missed it.
Further questions - if I may please:
What is the possibility that we could get quite a quick response to the "unused"…"
"Sometimes IT is soooo frustrating!
This is the comment I wanted to display above the quotation of Joe Samuels' response.
For those who have asked: "can we have this in writing", I have copied the response that Joe Samuels made on…"
Firstly, what writing do you need to see from SAQA? Secondly, the quality assurance responsibility and function, by law, is assigned to the QCTO. SETAs have been delegated to perform the function by the QCTO. The QCTO can…"
"For those who have asked: "can we have this in writing", I have copied the response that Joe Samuels made on Lynel's discussion: The Question remains: what or how do we plan? so that it is in this discussion as well.
Thank you Joe…"
Getting organisations back to basics, filling the gaps in quality assurance in any training environment! Conducting internal and external evaluations of ETD Providers in terms of given criteria and/or quality assurance principles for a variety of purposes including but not limited to accreditation applications, development of accreditation processes, improvement of provision. Plan, prepare, conduct, evaluate, analyse, verify, interpret reports with regards to the Provider's quality assurance systems for learning provision and assessment. Report findings as well as make recommendations. ETQA Manager, dealing with quality assurance for an Accredited Provider. Register Assessors and Moderators for single unit standards, as well as skills programs, Learnerships and Qualifications. Qualified Facilitator, Assessor, Moderator and Verifier.
Congrats, it all finally came together! Sorry I have been so quiet, been hectic. Since our last contact I have relocated up to JHB from Durban and am now working for one of the training providers in establishing ETQA processes. Still haven't settled but getting there. Will get back into everything soon.
I think that the majority of the problem stems from focussing on Assessor and Moderator registrations and not looking at the higher levels of ETD Practitioner in the QA process. Originally there was a set of 4 unit standards under ETDP that covered Assessor, Moderator, Verifier and Evaluator. Since that time, the assessor and moderator unit standards have changed, the verifier unit standard was allowed to end and the evaluator unit standard stays as it was. To date, while Assessor and Moderator registrations try to reflect the requirements of the relevant unit standard, there seems to be no real initiative to apply similar registration criteria to the upper levels of ETD Practitioner.
I completed the Verifier programme while it was still valid in 2005, and the Evaluator programme back in 2007, using an actual exercise with a provider that was needing assisstance with achieving accreditation. I am well aware of the shortcomings of ETQA Practitioners in terms of these programmes, and it has given me some insight into what providers need in these processes. While it has taken some time, there is a market for these services and it is the one thing that I can be thankful to an ETQA for.
I dont believe you have made the wrong choice, as long as you believe that you can be successful. In terms of making systems work, it is clear that it is up to the participants, and not the ETQA's, to apply the correct procedures and methods. What you are doing is preparing yourself to do just this. Give me a shout if you need anything.
Hi Lynel - welcome to our skills-universe. Please add your photo and feel free to join the Gauteng group and as many other groups as you are interested in, and participate in discussions and of course, please invite your friends & colleagues to join. :)