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Close down the SETAs
Started this discussion. Last reply by Ansie de Vos Feb 26. 59 Replies 9 Likes
Close down the SETAs. Bring back apprenticeships, throughout the Country.When I was a little boy, this lady came to our house and spoke at length to my mother about poor children. They had nothing…Continue
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Joe van Wyk replied to John P Connolly's discussion Close down the SETAs"One can certainly understand John Connolly's frustration - in fact, he literally speaks for all of us in the Skills Universe community.
We'll all agree: SETAs are (or is it 'were') in principle a very good concept. And we'll…"
"Hi Jean
Organised labour at my work has already started challenging the Engineering manager and the ETD department to engage our SETA in this case CHIETA to come and review exactly what I have articulated in my previous comments. We need to…"
"Hi Wessel
I came with a suggestion to take this debate forwadbut there are no takers. Is it because we do not have SMEs with regards to Engineering related matters or we just don't want to entertain this strategic economic hub of a…"
"Hi Des
Good point and unfortunately people's minds are made up, they will not lodge complaints to those people. As long as we still have statements like those people we are still far from coming with solutions."
"Hi Chris
I also beg to differ with you. If someone implements a program wrongly, are you going to blame the program or the person who installed the program?
Learnerships in many companies, not SETAs are working finely therefore we should not blame…"
"I have attended most of my ETDP courses at Colleen Osorio's institution. She is a fiesty woman but brilliant too. She has established rapport with the SETAs she works with simply because she knows that she needs them for her business to…"
"Hi David
You have hit the mark. SETAs were set up not inherited. We should work as a collective and fix the issues of concern. Look at NEDLAC, all parties whether they like one another or not they are foced to sit down and meaningfully consult. "
"Hi Kholisile
I agree with you 100%"
Charles Dey replied to John P Connolly's discussion Close down the SETAs"To add to what Claudia says: in the industry in which I train (freight forwarding) we have two learnerships which, together with a supplementary short skills programme, are aligned to the German Commercial Apprenticeship in Freight…"
Claudia Nicholl replied to John P Connolly's discussion Close down the SETAs"Hi David
This is not quite true. The apprentice system in Germany is working for the last fifty years and covers all sectors of business, from engineering to office to retail to hairdressing to waitressing to scientific to bakery to cooking to…"
David van Vuuren replied to John P Connolly's discussion Close down the SETAs"Whilst some of your points are most definately valid, there is far more to the Seta and indeed, many of them have had successes in terms of Training and Upskilling. Apprenticeships although important in some sectors cannot cover all sectors of…"
Elvin Simons replied to John P Connolly's discussion Close down the SETAs"I share you concerns with the seta's and especially their results. It bothers me as to whether we should be doing away with them completely or try and find solutions to make them as effective as they should be. And then again, they have already…"
ContributorTheuns Laubscher replied to John P Connolly's discussion Close down the SETAs
"Thanks, Des. I'm sure each one of us has a list of things or a silver bullet that we would like to see changed in order to create more artisans and skilled people that can help drive the economy and support their families. The one thing…"
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