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Change starts when someone takes the first step

Started this discussion. Last reply by Hannes Nel Sep 4. 21 Replies

There is no doubt…Continue

Tags: quality, colleges, plan, assurance, occupational

The Cumulative Effect of Private Provision

Started Jun 17 0 Replies

Perhaps I am not very good at statistics, but the claim made in the White Paper for Post-school Education and Training, page 42 does not make sense to me. On this page, second last paragraph, the…Continue

Are Verifiers Adding any Value to the Learning Process?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lynel Farrell Jun 9. 20 Replies

I am reading Jacqui Baumgardt’s thesis on Quality Assurance Challenges for Private Providers, and just her problem statement already triggered visions of challenges and opportunities in my mind. No…Continue

The White Paper and the Promotion of Lifelong Learning

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carl Roodnick Feb 6. 18 Replies

We often find that the DHET make decisions that actually hamper the achievement of the strategic objectives of the National Development Plan, the New Growth Path, the Industrial Policy Action Plan…Continue

 

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Hannes Nel replied to Charles Dey's discussion Need help please- distinguishing the excellent from the good
"Hello Charles, I posted the main quality criteria previously. Here they are again: TEN MAIN AREAS OF QUALITY ASSURANCE 1. Institutional ethos and strategic planning. a. The vision of the institution. b. The mission of the institution. c. Aims and…"
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Hannes Nel replied to Des Squire's discussion Notional hours - what impact do they have?
"You are right, Allen - in theory. More than twenty years experiece in occupational learning, however, taught me that: 1. The large majority of learners do not submit their portfolios if they are required to do so after a month or two following on…"
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Hannes Nel replied to Des Squire's discussion Notional hours - what impact do they have?
"It is nice to, sometimes, receive a topic for discussion late. Now all I need to do is respond to all the truths already written by others: 1. Who is checking? Very good question. I often objected about private providers offering learning programmes…"
Thursday

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Hannes Nel replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Why we will no longer accept discussions containing personal telephone numbers in the group The Help Desk
"Perfectly understandable. Hannes"
Nov 6

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Hannes Nel replied to Des Squire's discussion Should we change our outlook on RPL?
"I think members of the Skills Universe can have lots of fun by discussing your notes, Des. Consider a holistic approach to RPL. Forgive me for not going into too much detail. Hannes Nel"
Nov 4

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Hannes Nel replied to Marie Smith's discussion Learners not meeting entry requirements for a unit standard/skills programme in the group Learning Material Development
"Well, technically speaking SETAs have no say about entry requirements, because the are not quality assurance bodies. However, I understand what you mean. ETQAs used to be quite lenient about entry requirements when it comes to single unit standards.…"
Oct 31

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Hannes Nel replied to sylvia hammond's discussion SAQA publishes National Policy on Recognition of Prior Learning in the group Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL)
"Sorry, Steve, My opinion on this would be nothing more than mere speculation. One will need to do proper research to be able to say what the actual situation is."
Oct 15

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Hannes Nel replied to sylvia hammond's discussion SAQA publishes National Policy on Recognition of Prior Learning in the group Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL)
"Robust debate - I like it. Your description of what we might well do when discussing the cost of RPL is spot on. You are right that RPL assessment that is not resource hungry should also not be more expensive than attending the actual course.…"
Oct 15

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Hannes Nel replied to sylvia hammond's discussion SAQA publishes National Policy on Recognition of Prior Learning in the group Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL)
"The "old" National RPL Policy, which SAQA wrote, specified that RPL must cost less than formal learning. SAQA, however, came to realise that this would not always be possible. International scrutiny showed that RPL may well be more…"
Oct 14

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Alexander Robertson replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What is the minimum size for a learning institution? in the group Training Service Providers
"I see nothing wrong with starting small as a provider. I started with only 4 US which I covered in one workshop. It was TETA who gave me the recommendation to start small and then apply for EOS after accreditation. This in my mind is the best…"
Oct 8
Celeste Maxime Lackay replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What is the minimum size for a learning institution? in the group Training Service Providers
"This is why I am so keen to be working with the SABPP."
Oct 6

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Zerelde Uys replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What is the minimum size for a learning institution? in the group Training Service Providers
"No offence taken. It just amazes me that misrepresentations like these are the reasons for the SETA's continuously 'upping' the bureaucratic standards, but continuously missing the elimination of such behaviour - eg The ETDPSETA only…"
Oct 6
Celeste Maxime Lackay replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What is the minimum size for a learning institution? in the group Training Service Providers
"Hi Zerelda You are 100% correct and I was in no means referring to the 'small' provider with integrity. 2 months ago I got an email invitation to an accredited "3 day Advanced SDF programme based on US's worth 39 credits @ NQF…"
Oct 6

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Zerelde Uys replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What is the minimum size for a learning institution? in the group Training Service Providers
"Please remember that not everybody offering NQF aligned courses do so as their sole source of offering or income. It could only serve as a contributory service - such as myself training Assessors to be Facilitators of our Hands-on English course -…"
Oct 6

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MD and owner of Mentornet, a private training institution. We also design and develop learning materials and do quality assurance of ETD.
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Hannes Nel's Blog

Writing a email is like a declaration of war

Posted on September 18, 2013 at 10:30 12 Comments

Have you noticed, people often don’t interpret you email messages the way you meant it? This often leads to the demise of friendships and healthy business relationships. Take Facebook (or Twitter, MXIT, Whatsapp, BBM, etc.) as an example. Someone may send thousands of messages over a long period of time, and then, one day, they send just one, JUST ONE message that people interpret negatively, then all the good work of so many previous messages is down the drain. We all know of examples where…

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The thin line between bribery and paying for services rendered

Posted on July 15, 2013 at 9:19 5 Comments

Now don’t get me wrong – Mentornet will never ever pay anybody a bribe for the simple reason that it is against the law. Problem is, now that the Minister of Higher education and Training in his infinite wisdom decided to channel almost all skills grants to public learning institutions he might just have unleashed a new corruption and bribery beast in especially FET Colleges. If I add my own experiences to…

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Can private learning institutions lead the way in offering quality ETD?

Posted on July 1, 2013 at 13:40 5 Comments

In a Skills Universe message on 23 June 2013 Cas Olivier aired his view that private learning institutions are more flexible than public learning institutions and, as I understand it, private learning institutions should set the example in offering good quality ETD. If one were to research statistics on learning institutions you may well get the impression that he is right. However, as we have seen so…

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When the assessment system fails the student

Posted on August 14, 2012 at 14:12 9 Comments

I believe most of us know of instances where lecturers or other staff members of learning institutions actually collaborate with students to cheat in examinations. This also happens after the examinations, for example where assessors are instructed by their superiors to inflate the examination results so that the learning institution will not look bad. Any such practice is a disservice to the students because ultimately students are required to perform jobs for which their studies were…

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At 10:04am on March 07, 2014, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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Happy birthday Hannes - all the very best for a great day and a successful year. Thank you so much for the valuable contribution you make to our community - from sylvia and the skills-universe team
At 12:12pm on March 07, 2013, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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A birthday gift from the skills-universe team
At 3:30 on November 27, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Thank u Dr, according to my knowledge there is no NLRD for AET level 1 to 3, only GETC level, even DOE doesn't have am I correct? Do you perhaps know why? As AET is such a demand.
At 9:33 on November 26, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Hi Dr please help me I need to know is it obliged for a training provider to be accredited in order to offer AET level 1 and 2, hence there is no NLRD for AET?
At 9:56 on September 15, 2012,
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Wilma de Villiers
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Hi, Hannes

I always follow your discussions with interest and want to ask you to comment on my blog on 'skills universe as a civil society'.

Your input would be appreciated.


Regards

Wilma

At 11:17 on May 10, 2012, themba thulani sibanda said…

Thank you Dr Hannes Nel, let me contact you on email to provide the whole story.

At 2:32pm on May 02, 2012, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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Thank you so much - sylvia
At 14:25 on June 2, 2011, Charlene Peens said…

Well said Johannes!  If more of us stand up against the Minister/s and all there unlanned and un-thought through changes, we should be able to raise a stronger voice.  I am starting to doubt the future of ETD in our country. When the OBE system started, I was one of the few people who cheered and said that we can make it work - to my disappointment, OBE has failed in my opinion and our children are suffering.  But as you very well stated, it is not the system that failed, but the people who had to implement it.  Children were already taught in OBE ways for almost a year when the teachers went for their first workshops... this is suicide in it's own right.

I am not sure where ETD is going to from now, but the QCTO has not been on a good start at all.  What will happen to ETD? What can we as providers do to assist in the turmoil?  I do agree with what you say about us guarding against being fly by nights because there are still hundreds - if not thousands - of fly by nights out there that operate exactly as you have described.  Shame on those who are brining the private provider down so badly...

 
 
 

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