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Change starts when someone takes the first step

Started this discussion. Last reply by Hannes Nel Sep 4. 21 Replies

There is no doubt…Continue

Tags: quality, colleges, plan, assurance, occupational

The Cumulative Effect of Private Provision

Started Jun 17 0 Replies

Perhaps I am not very good at statistics, but the claim made in the White Paper for Post-school Education and Training, page 42 does not make sense to me. On this page, second last paragraph, the…Continue

Are Verifiers Adding any Value to the Learning Process?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lynel Farrell Jun 9. 20 Replies

I am reading Jacqui Baumgardt’s thesis on Quality Assurance Challenges for Private Providers, and just her problem statement already triggered visions of challenges and opportunities in my mind. No…Continue

The White Paper and the Promotion of Lifelong Learning

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carl Roodnick Feb 6. 18 Replies

We often find that the DHET make decisions that actually hamper the achievement of the strategic objectives of the National Development Plan, the New Growth Path, the Industrial Policy Action Plan…Continue

 

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Carl Roodnick liked Hannes Nel's discussion Prerequisites for a CAT system
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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Is a holistic approach to RPL the answer? in the group Assessors & Moderators
"The web site that you directed Charlene to also helped me understand the 70-20-10 concept. It is nearly the same as the workplace learning - simulated learning - formal learning concept with a slight shift in emphasis. Interesting…"
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Steve Short replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Is a holistic approach to RPL the answer? in the group Assessors & Moderators
"No really sure if I can help much here Charlene as the concept is new to me.  Most of what I know was sourced via a RTO forum here.  I personally found the following to be most informative - it comes with a 'free' e-book'…"
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Steve Short replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Is a holistic approach to RPL the answer? in the group Assessors & Moderators
"Hannes the 20% is from people (workplace mentor, supervisor, etc) and the 10% is from classroom learning and reading.  My concern is that I'm not sure if the 10 component is enough if you get beyond Cert III level.  Yes what you say…"
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Charlene Peens replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Is a holistic approach to RPL the answer? in the group Assessors & Moderators
"Hi Steve I would be very interested in getting more information on this model for my thesis - please can you provide me with information or point me to a resource? Inbox me on peensc21@gmail.com Much appreciated."
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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Is a holistic approach to RPL the answer? in the group Assessors & Moderators
"Hello Steve, I am not sure what the 70-20-10 model entails. If it refers to a ratio between workplace learning (70%) classroom theoretical learning (20%) and simulated practical learning (10%), then it does support RPL, but is not necessarily RPL,…"
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Steve Short replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Is a holistic approach to RPL the answer? in the group Assessors & Moderators
"The flavour of the month here (in Australia) amongst VET providers seems to be the '70-20-10 model'.  To me the model supports RPL quite strongly and also appears to be a close match to the Learnership model.  I hope it…"
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Charles Dey replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"Hi Cynthia, Sorry to be a nitpicker but why a  "Chartered Institute of Professional Practitioners and Trainers" . From where are you proposing to acquire your Charter? The Queen? Because that's where all other professional…"
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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"Mark, A small learning provider is not necessarily a fly-by-night as much as a large learning institution might well be one. EU member states have a good definition of a "good" learning institution: "Anybody or person who delivers,…"
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mark maseko replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"Good Morning, this continues to be a very interesting topic but the tone of it becomes that the role APPEDT is not clearly understood by the ETD sector, only a few that has close contact do. If we believe that APPEDT is the real body to represent…"
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Des Squire replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
" Really great news Cynthia - thank you for bringing this to our attention."
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Cynthia Reynders replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"Dear Jacqueline The Professional Body "CIPPT" will be for the individual and the individuals within an provider organisation. The status of a professional can only be for an individual. So, yes there is a place for you. Regards Cynthia"
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Dr Jacqueline Baumgardt (Jax) replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"This is exciting news indeed and I would love to become a member. The only problem I have is that I am not a provider but an individual with a deep and keen interest in the sector. I don't intend becoming a provider at any time but am involved…"
Sep 15
Cynthia Reynders replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"Dear Hannes Many thanks for the appreciative posting. Indeed you are correct, APPETD will NEVER support fly-by-nights and in fact will commence with an initiative this month to rid the ETD sector of fly-by-nights.  I am aware of the Mentoring…"
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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"V-e-r-r-y funny! :-) Thank you for being kind, Nicolene. Hannes"
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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion What can APPETD do for SMMEs? in the group Occupationally Directed Education, Training and Development Practices
"We are quite happy just to be a private learning provider, Jacqui. If I register a professional body I will have to close down Mentornet. Can't do that. The Mentoring Network is doing just fine as a network - we don't need a professional…"
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Hannes Nel's Blog

Writing a email is like a declaration of war

Posted on September 18, 2013 at 10:30 12 Comments

Have you noticed, people often don’t interpret you email messages the way you meant it? This often leads to the demise of friendships and healthy business relationships. Take Facebook (or Twitter, MXIT, Whatsapp, BBM, etc.) as an example. Someone may send thousands of messages over a long period of time, and then, one day, they send just one, JUST ONE message that people interpret negatively, then all the good work of so many previous messages is down the drain. We all know of examples where…

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The thin line between bribery and paying for services rendered

Posted on July 15, 2013 at 9:19 5 Comments

Now don’t get me wrong – Mentornet will never ever pay anybody a bribe for the simple reason that it is against the law. Problem is, now that the Minister of Higher education and Training in his infinite wisdom decided to channel almost all skills grants to public learning institutions he might just have unleashed a new corruption and bribery beast in especially FET Colleges. If I add my own experiences to…

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Can private learning institutions lead the way in offering quality ETD?

Posted on July 1, 2013 at 13:40 5 Comments

In a Skills Universe message on 23 June 2013 Cas Olivier aired his view that private learning institutions are more flexible than public learning institutions and, as I understand it, private learning institutions should set the example in offering good quality ETD. If one were to research statistics on learning institutions you may well get the impression that he is right. However, as we have seen so…

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When the assessment system fails the student

Posted on August 14, 2012 at 14:12 9 Comments

I believe most of us know of instances where lecturers or other staff members of learning institutions actually collaborate with students to cheat in examinations. This also happens after the examinations, for example where assessors are instructed by their superiors to inflate the examination results so that the learning institution will not look bad. Any such practice is a disservice to the students because ultimately students are required to perform jobs for which their studies were…

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At 10:04am on March 07, 2014, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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Happy birthday Hannes - all the very best for a great day and a successful year. Thank you so much for the valuable contribution you make to our community - from sylvia and the skills-universe team
At 12:12pm on March 07, 2013, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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A birthday gift from the skills-universe team
At 3:30 on November 27, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Thank u Dr, according to my knowledge there is no NLRD for AET level 1 to 3, only GETC level, even DOE doesn't have am I correct? Do you perhaps know why? As AET is such a demand.
At 9:33 on November 26, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Hi Dr please help me I need to know is it obliged for a training provider to be accredited in order to offer AET level 1 and 2, hence there is no NLRD for AET?
At 9:56 on September 15, 2012,
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Wilma de Villiers
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Hi, Hannes

I always follow your discussions with interest and want to ask you to comment on my blog on 'skills universe as a civil society'.

Your input would be appreciated.


Regards

Wilma

At 11:17 on May 10, 2012, themba thulani sibanda said…

Thank you Dr Hannes Nel, let me contact you on email to provide the whole story.

At 2:32pm on May 02, 2012, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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Thank you so much - sylvia
At 14:25 on June 2, 2011, Charlene Peens said…

Well said Johannes!  If more of us stand up against the Minister/s and all there unlanned and un-thought through changes, we should be able to raise a stronger voice.  I am starting to doubt the future of ETD in our country. When the OBE system started, I was one of the few people who cheered and said that we can make it work - to my disappointment, OBE has failed in my opinion and our children are suffering.  But as you very well stated, it is not the system that failed, but the people who had to implement it.  Children were already taught in OBE ways for almost a year when the teachers went for their first workshops... this is suicide in it's own right.

I am not sure where ETD is going to from now, but the QCTO has not been on a good start at all.  What will happen to ETD? What can we as providers do to assist in the turmoil?  I do agree with what you say about us guarding against being fly by nights because there are still hundreds - if not thousands - of fly by nights out there that operate exactly as you have described.  Shame on those who are brining the private provider down so badly...

 
 
 

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