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Change starts when someone takes the first step

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lynel Farrell on Monday. 17 Replies

There is no doubt…Continue

Tags: quality, colleges, plan, assurance, occupational

The Cumulative Effect of Private Provision

Started Jun 17 0 Replies

Perhaps I am not very good at statistics, but the claim made in the White Paper for Post-school Education and Training, page 42 does not make sense to me. On this page, second last paragraph, the…Continue

Are Verifiers Adding any Value to the Learning Process?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Lynel Farrell Jun 9. 20 Replies

I am reading Jacqui Baumgardt’s thesis on Quality Assurance Challenges for Private Providers, and just her problem statement already triggered visions of challenges and opportunities in my mind. No…Continue

The White Paper and the Promotion of Lifelong Learning

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carl Roodnick Feb 6. 18 Replies

We often find that the DHET make decisions that actually hamper the achievement of the strategic objectives of the National Development Plan, the New Growth Path, the Industrial Policy Action Plan…Continue

 

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Hannes Nel replied to Lynel Farrell's discussion QCTO vs SETAs - what progress if any?
"I agree that we can't let them delay the process. In our proposal we suggested that the CEPs and the QCTO (stakeholders) be given three weeks after every half-day sitting to respond. If they don't respond within this time we would carry on…"
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Hannes Nel replied to Lynel Farrell's discussion QCTO vs SETAs - what progress if any?
"Jacqui, we need to consult stakeholders, or CEPs or employers, whatever one would like to call them, because the curriculum is occupational, i.e. training needs to satisfy the skills needs of the industry. It would be a tragedy if we were to design…"
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Lynel Farrell replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Hannes, I second you ............... loosing hope.  I for one, am not going against the QCTO or SAQA or Mr Samuels.  However, some communication would be appreciated. "
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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Sylvia, Lynel, I am really losing hope now. I discussed the predicament with Cythia Reynders some two weeks ago. She did not agree with my concerns about the QCTO, which actually lifted my hopes for a while, because, after all, she is the one in the…"
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Hannes Nel replied to Madivan van der Merwe's discussion TRAINING:: Training Centres Are Producing Sub-standard Artisans
"In an article in the Sunday Times of 10 August 2014 (Unlocking the mind’s power to change your life, page 14) Claire Keeton wrote that Professor Langer, the first women professor to get tenure in the Harvard psychology department, once said…"
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Hannes Nel replied to Madivan van der Merwe's discussion TRAINING:: Training Centres Are Producing Sub-standard Artisans
"So, where is the Quality Assurance body? This is a very good example of what QA bodies should do."
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Hannes Nel replied to Lynel Farrell's discussion QCTO vs SETAs - what progress if any?
"Who do we as private providers feel should take over? Or what would we like the QCTO to do? And if it is professionalism that we would like them to demonstrate, how do we get them to do so? We need to investigate such matters in our own interest.…"
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sylvia hammond replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Good morning Lynel and Hannes - On the QCTO, recently when looking for something else I noted a report on the QCTO presentation to parliament in the last quarter of 2013.  As I recall it indicated that there are about 2,500 qualifications -…"
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Lynel Farrell replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Hi Hannes, I am no expert on the QCTO.  I understand the training industry and I respect training providers and the work they do.  I acknowledge that there are a missing link between councils, authorities, SETAs, providers and SAQA…"
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Hannes Nel replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Is there a relationship between education, skills, and employment growth? in the group The Skills-Universe Book Club
"I don't think one should argue about facts. There are ample case studies of how education on a national scale launched countries into prosperity. Take South Korea as an example."
Aug 14

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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Please continue with your study of the QCTO, Lynel. We will need to look at them when we, the private providers, develop a strategy in support of the NDP. I discussed this with Cynthia Reynders and told her that we should do what private…"
Aug 14
Cas Olivier replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Hi Des, Agree. There are a number of organisations promoting and supporting quality teaching. E.g. on school level: http://www.thinkingschoolssa.co.za/ Just a quick litmus test for quality teaching. If you are standing in front of the group and…"
Aug 13

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Lynel Farrell replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Thanks Hannes, I just wish that the APPETD tried to assist when the questions were asked to the QCTO and SAQA, but so far it has only been complete silence.  You can only get somewhere if everybody stands together for a better quality education…"
Aug 13

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Hannes Nel and Madre Goosen are now friends
Aug 12

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Hannes Nel replied to Hannes Nel's discussion Change starts when someone takes the first step
"Thank you. Gill, I hope you will offer your services as a speaker for APPETD's national conference next year. No doubt you can make a huge difference. Of course I cannot invite speakers for the event, and I hope APPETD will pick this suggestion…"
Aug 12

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Hannes Nel's Blog

Writing a email is like a declaration of war

Posted on September 18, 2013 at 10:30 12 Comments

Have you noticed, people often don’t interpret you email messages the way you meant it? This often leads to the demise of friendships and healthy business relationships. Take Facebook (or Twitter, MXIT, Whatsapp, BBM, etc.) as an example. Someone may send thousands of messages over a long period of time, and then, one day, they send just one, JUST ONE message that people interpret negatively, then all the good work of so many previous messages is down the drain. We all know of examples where…

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The thin line between bribery and paying for services rendered

Posted on July 15, 2013 at 9:19 5 Comments

Now don’t get me wrong – Mentornet will never ever pay anybody a bribe for the simple reason that it is against the law. Problem is, now that the Minister of Higher education and Training in his infinite wisdom decided to channel almost all skills grants to public learning institutions he might just have unleashed a new corruption and bribery beast in especially FET Colleges. If I add my own experiences to…

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Can private learning institutions lead the way in offering quality ETD?

Posted on July 1, 2013 at 13:40 5 Comments

In a Skills Universe message on 23 June 2013 Cas Olivier aired his view that private learning institutions are more flexible than public learning institutions and, as I understand it, private learning institutions should set the example in offering good quality ETD. If one were to research statistics on learning institutions you may well get the impression that he is right. However, as we have seen so…

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When the assessment system fails the student

Posted on August 14, 2012 at 14:12 9 Comments

I believe most of us know of instances where lecturers or other staff members of learning institutions actually collaborate with students to cheat in examinations. This also happens after the examinations, for example where assessors are instructed by their superiors to inflate the examination results so that the learning institution will not look bad. Any such practice is a disservice to the students because ultimately students are required to perform jobs for which their studies were…

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At 10:04am on March 07, 2014, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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Happy birthday Hannes - all the very best for a great day and a successful year. Thank you so much for the valuable contribution you make to our community - from sylvia and the skills-universe team
At 12:12pm on March 07, 2013, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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A birthday gift from the skills-universe team
At 3:30 on November 27, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Thank u Dr, according to my knowledge there is no NLRD for AET level 1 to 3, only GETC level, even DOE doesn't have am I correct? Do you perhaps know why? As AET is such a demand.
At 9:33 on November 26, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Hi Dr please help me I need to know is it obliged for a training provider to be accredited in order to offer AET level 1 and 2, hence there is no NLRD for AET?
At 9:56 on September 15, 2012,
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Wilma de Villiers
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Hi, Hannes

I always follow your discussions with interest and want to ask you to comment on my blog on 'skills universe as a civil society'.

Your input would be appreciated.


Regards

Wilma

At 11:17 on May 10, 2012, themba thulani sibanda said…

Thank you Dr Hannes Nel, let me contact you on email to provide the whole story.

At 2:32pm on May 02, 2012, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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Thank you so much - sylvia
At 14:25 on June 2, 2011, Charlene Peens said…

Well said Johannes!  If more of us stand up against the Minister/s and all there unlanned and un-thought through changes, we should be able to raise a stronger voice.  I am starting to doubt the future of ETD in our country. When the OBE system started, I was one of the few people who cheered and said that we can make it work - to my disappointment, OBE has failed in my opinion and our children are suffering.  But as you very well stated, it is not the system that failed, but the people who had to implement it.  Children were already taught in OBE ways for almost a year when the teachers went for their first workshops... this is suicide in it's own right.

I am not sure where ETD is going to from now, but the QCTO has not been on a good start at all.  What will happen to ETD? What can we as providers do to assist in the turmoil?  I do agree with what you say about us guarding against being fly by nights because there are still hundreds - if not thousands - of fly by nights out there that operate exactly as you have described.  Shame on those who are brining the private provider down so badly...

 
 
 

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