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Executing an Arabesque in ETD

Started this discussion. Last reply by len stevens on Wednesday. 6 Replies

I suppose it is kind of standard procedure for people in all countries to play power games, to eliminate the opposition, to push those that you regard as a threat to one side. The problem with this…Continue

Why the Mentoring Network?

Started Apr 15 0 Replies

Two private providers visited me early last week to discuss some burning issues with which most private learning institutions struggle. I explained to them that I established the Mentoring Network in…Continue

The major stumbling blocks in the way of a truly articulated NQF

Started this discussion. Last reply by sylvia hammond Mar 12. 18 Replies

I was indeed honoured and privileged to be invited to the Second NQF Research Conference arranged by SAQA that took place from 4 to 6 March 2013 in Benoni. After all, Mentornet is just a tiny,…Continue

Salient points discussed at the APPETD/QCTO workshop held on 25 February 2013

Started this discussion. Last reply by Don Leffler Apr 3. 2 Replies

I guess what is important to me might not be important to others, so the notes I took might not be as important to you as they are to me. I will list them more or less in order of importance, but…Continue

 

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"Thanks for the swift reply, Hannes - appreciated. And I'm in no way judgmental of your notes "being negative". On the contrary ... we have to look at the "as is" - which you have meticulously done - if we are to see what it…"
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"This was very well said. Honestly, I do not think we will ever entirely get rid of such people or have an ideal system where people work for the greater good and not their egos. What surprises me as that nobody realises that this entire system of…"
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"I think that Hannes has diagnosed a very serious problem very well  but the question is - what do we, as responsible citizens, do to solve it?"
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Executing an Arabesque in ETD

I suppose it is kind of standard procedure for people in all countries to play power games, to eliminate the opposition, to push those that you regard as a threat to one side. The problem with this kind of attitude is that it can be extremely damaging to the economy and the community at large. It is probably the most important reason why the South African educational system is in such a sorry state.When the Standard Generating Bodies (SGBs) were established we had a number of private…See More
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Hannes Nel replied to Des Squire's discussion How can we be Proudly South African?
"Come on, Des tell us what you think we should and can do. I must admit, I do not have the answer except to keep on trying and moving in more or less the right direction. What I do know, though, is that we should do our best best to see South Africa…"
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Hannes Nel replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Workshop Report on Umalusi consultative meeting April 2013 in the group APPETD Association for Private Providers of ETD
"Thank you for the vote of confidence. I hope I am on the APPETD address/contact list since I am a supporter and member! Regards, JPN"
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Hannes Nel replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Workshop Report on Umalusi consultative meeting April 2013 in the group APPETD Association for Private Providers of ETD
"I followed the discussions on Skills Universe and one or two other platforms about the Umalusi quality assurance process and fee structure with quite some interest. It is important that private learning institutions work together in combating…"
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When the assessment system fails the student

Posted on August 14, 2012 at 14:12 11 Comments

I believe most of us know of instances where lecturers or other staff members of learning institutions actually collaborate with students to cheat in examinations. This also happens after the examinations, for example where assessors are instructed by their superiors to inflate the examination results so that the learning institution will not look bad. Any such practice is a disservice to the students because ultimately students are required to perform jobs for which their studies were…

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Contextualising training materials

Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:04 12 Comments

It is rather frustrating when consultants who evaluate training materials on behalf of quality assurance bodies claim that the materials have not been contextualised when clearly they do not know how materials should be contextualised to begin with. Quality assurance bodies mostly rely on the expert advice of such evaluators so that they have no other choice but to refuse approval and accreditation of such materials. Sadly the so-called experts are often also private training providers who…

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ASSOCIATION OF OD ETD PROVIDERS

Posted on November 15, 2011 at 8:54 0 Comments

Hello Des, Congratulations on starting a really constructive, though sometimes heated debate. It is the “heated” part of the debate that I would like to pursue here. I believe we have all experienced losing your temper because of something that somebody wrote in an email when in actual fact the sender had no ill intentions. This is because all we have to go on is what we see on our monitors – no body language or tone of voice. And because we sometimes are suspicious of the motives of others…

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At 12:12pm on March 07, 2013, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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A birthday gift from the skills-universe team
At 3:30 on November 27, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Thank u Dr, according to my knowledge there is no NLRD for AET level 1 to 3, only GETC level, even DOE doesn't have am I correct? Do you perhaps know why? As AET is such a demand.
At 9:33 on November 26, 2012, Nelisiwe Mkhize said…
Hi Dr please help me I need to know is it obliged for a training provider to be accredited in order to offer AET level 1 and 2, hence there is no NLRD for AET?
At 9:56 on September 15, 2012,
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Wilma de Villiers
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Hi, Hannes

I always follow your discussions with interest and want to ask you to comment on my blog on 'skills universe as a civil society'.

Your input would be appreciated.


Regards

Wilma

At 11:17 on May 10, 2012, themba thulani sibanda said…

Thank you Dr Hannes Nel, let me contact you on email to provide the whole story.

At 2:32pm on May 02, 2012, sylvia hammond gave Hannes Nel a gift
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Thank you so much - sylvia
At 14:25 on June 2, 2011, Charlene Peens said…

Well said Johannes!  If more of us stand up against the Minister/s and all there unlanned and un-thought through changes, we should be able to raise a stronger voice.  I am starting to doubt the future of ETD in our country. When the OBE system started, I was one of the few people who cheered and said that we can make it work - to my disappointment, OBE has failed in my opinion and our children are suffering.  But as you very well stated, it is not the system that failed, but the people who had to implement it.  Children were already taught in OBE ways for almost a year when the teachers went for their first workshops... this is suicide in it's own right.

I am not sure where ETD is going to from now, but the QCTO has not been on a good start at all.  What will happen to ETD? What can we as providers do to assist in the turmoil?  I do agree with what you say about us guarding against being fly by nights because there are still hundreds - if not thousands - of fly by nights out there that operate exactly as you have described.  Shame on those who are brining the private provider down so badly...

 
 
 

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