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VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership
Started this discussion. Last reply by Buhlebakhe Tshabalala-Sekwele Nov 24, 2011. 15 Replies 0 Likes
Can anyone answer my dilemma: We are a lead training provider on an NVC learnership and now have to raise an invoice on the Lead Employer for the training services. The Lead Employer says that the…Continue
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Buhlebakhe Tshabalala-Sekwele replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a LearnershipMarie-Therese Portolan replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"I looked at the extract and I think the query would lie in whether a private FET is registered under the FETAct or is it merely accredited by said Act.
The answer to that may provide clarity. However I revert to the explanation given to me by the…"
Jean Henri Du Plessis replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"
I went to SARS Randburg this morning and no one in their VAT department could help me with this problem. They have escalated it to their Legal Department and will let me know "in due course". Meanwhile they said I must issue an…"
" Sorry, I used the wrong word - this service is not not zero rated; it is VAT exempt. The following is an extract from the VAT Guide for Vendors dated 6 September 2011, obtainable from the SARS website.
6.5 EDUCATIONAL AND CHILDCARE…"
Gweje Methula replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"I have the same problem, where the actuul quote excluded VAT as I ahd to meet the budgetray constraints of the client in the initial set-up. Now, the challenge is how do I then convince the client once the discretionary grant is offered? I…"
Jean Henri Du Plessis replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership" Thanks very much for all your answers. I think it is quite clear now:
The SETAs are Zero rate for VAT and any invoices raise against them must be without VAT. Any other invoices relating to the Learnership between other parties i.e Lead…"
Marie-Therese Portolan replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"My understanding is as follows:
When the party who is contracted to the SETA invoices there is no VAT applicable as you cannot charge a tax on a tax. However all the subsequent invoices raised by secondary parties have to have VAT charged on them if…"
Isobel Rose replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"Hi Jean,
We always charge VAT for invoices raised to our debtors for learnership fees as both parties are VAT registered vendors."
Jean Henri Du Plessis replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"Hi Johan,
I was not aware of this fact. So our company is registered with DHET and the Learnership is at NQF level 4. Does this mean that we are then Zero rated for VAT to provide the training for the learnership? The SETA has sent us a document…"
Jean Henri Du Plessis replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"
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"It could be that someone is assuming that the learnership is an NQF level 2 or higher qualification. If it is, then the provider should by rights be a provisionally regisitered Private FET college, in which case the service…"
Rowan van Dyk replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"Yep !! I have had this fight several times with the SETAs. The SETA claim they are not a VAT vendor so you will never get VAT from them. You on the other hand are probably registered for VAT - so then you have to claim and pay VAT. What has happened…"
Werner Rossouw replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"Hi Jean
We had the same dilemma a year ago. We invoiced the employer with VAT as we are VAT vendors. This is a requirement of SARS - if you are registered for VAT, you must charge VAT.
In the case of the learnership, the Employer needs to carry the…"
Isobel Rose replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"Hi Jean, If your business is VAT registered vendor you are required to issue an invoice including VAT. Government departments are VAT exempted for skills development fees."
Lorinda Nel replied to Jean Henri Du Plessis's discussion VAT or No VAT on Invoice for providing training on a Learnership"We do a lot of learnership and I have always prepared qoutation with VAT, reasons for this is: the claiming for clients on TAX rebate, the VAT has to be paid to SARS. The question is did you price excluding or including VAT?"
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Can anyone answer my dilemma: We are a lead training provider on an NVC learnership and now have to raise an invoice on the Lead Employer for the training services. The Lead Employer says that the invoice must be Zero rated for VAT but our auditers say that VAT must be added to the invoice. Which is correct - we don't want to fall foul of SARS?See More
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