16th December 2016 at 8:09 pm #24994
Minister Nzimande for the Department for Higher Education and Training (DHET) has extended the estabishment of the existing 21 Sector Education and Training Authorities (SETAs) from 1 April 2018 until 31 March 2020.
Please see attached Government Gazette for full confirmation.
17th December 2016 at 6:13 am #25017
It is better this way. Thank you, Sylvia. Merry Christmas and may 2017 be a wonderful year for you with all your projects and interests.
17th December 2016 at 3:47 pm #25016
17th December 2016 at 7:15 pm #25015
Jubelian M KorkieMember
Thank you Sylvia
18th December 2016 at 6:02 pm #25014
Sylvia that good idea. Setas will pull their socks at this opportunity they will enjoy.
19th December 2016 at 6:00 am #25013
Do you know how this will impact on the proposed SETAB?
19th December 2016 at 6:01 am #25012
Hi Sylvia, thank you so much. Now, this is interesting news indeed.
19th December 2016 at 6:14 am #25011
Hi Danielle, that is a good question!
1. What is the impact?
2. What is the reason for this decision?
3. Instead of the Seta’s becoming permanent structures in 2018, now it seems there are possible problems?
4. Does this mean that Providers can now be “accredited” until March 2020?
This needs to be addressed in the QCTO sessions, to get some clarity regarding this extension, the impact on Providers, qualifications, assessors/moderators, learning material, learnerships and the like. I wonder if the proposed landscape and structure is going to change and what impact does this have on the NSDS IV?
19th December 2016 at 6:21 am #25010
Hi Lynel, How you doing? So many questions running through my mind at present lol and it doesn’t seem as if anyone really knows what is happening going forward?
19th December 2016 at 6:30 am #25009
Hi Danielle, always good thanks. Yes, this makes one think, what was the reason for this sudden decision? Was this decided, because of the severe backlogs that the Setas have currently, and it is now seen? What does the current proposals of the landscape mean now? Is it possible, that the permanent structures are being delayed by 2 years, as they possibly want to close some of the Setas before making them permanent due to poor service delivery? What happens now with the proposed changes that was planned for April 2017? What happens now with the proposed levies that will go to the NSF instead of the Setas? Very interesting, so many questions
19th December 2016 at 9:04 am #25008
On the 18th November 2016, DHET: Performance and Expenditure of SETAs. Standing Committee on Appropriations noted the current challenges as follows:
- Uneven capacity and resources among SETAs with varying performance levels, some SETAs are doing well hence continuous work to strengthen SETA capacity
- Poor SETA governance in some SETAs
- Role of government in SETA boards is limited
- Poor planning (resulting in surpluses and deficits)
- Shift from a quantitative to a qualitative focus
- Lack of research capability (hindering sector skills planning)
- Ineffective performance management, monitoring and evaluation
- Negative public perceptions about SETAs
- Difficulties in addressing cross sectorial skills development needs
- Slow economic growth, impacting on workplaces
- Some employers not opening up workplaces to the level of our expectations
- Exemption of government departments from paying the levy
- Some government departments spending of training money
19th December 2016 at 9:14 am #25007
It is my understanding that the SETA’s licencing period has been extended, on the advice from the National Skills Authority, in order to give adequate time for the commission/committee to consult more widely, and consider not just the SETA’s but the entire PSET system. The NSA hinted during the Landscape public briefings that they would make this suggestion to Minister Nzimande. However, it is unlikely that the re-establishment of SETA’s until 2020 means the status quo will remain. Between now and 2020 the size and shape of SETA’s will change by virtue of directives from the DHET. For example, as of January, the NSFAS will, in consultation with SETA’s, administer the SETA’s higher education bursary fund grant.
In regards to the QCTO and providers, plans remain in place:- the responsibilities that have to date fallen under the ambit of the SETA ETQA’s will still transfer to the QCTO. SETA’s have until March next year to convert all existing qualifications into the new curriculum format, and once completed all activities related to providers, learners and the curriculum will be managed by the QCTO and SETA ETQA’s will essentially dissolve. It is thus highly likely that by June/July next year, SETAs will not have an ETQA unit. 2017 will be a very interesting year indeed.
19th December 2016 at 9:19 am #25006
Thanks Kate, yes, it is going to be an interesting 2017. More reason for Providers to keep up with changes, amendments, staying current with the QCTO, be on-board and share any information that is coming in. Wow, so many challenges, questions, changes ………….
19th December 2016 at 10:23 am #25005
Staying up to date as a provider is indeed critical. Equally critical is that providers understand that their existence is dependent on quality output.
The QCTO and DHET have been very clear that the focus will shift substantially in 2017 to quality and learner throughput (throughput = number of learners enrolled compared to the number of learners found competent). Currently there is talk of providers needing to meet a 70% throughput rate (under the QCTO). This presents significant challenges for those providers who have to date focused more on quantity of learners, and less on the success rate of these learners. It will certainly not be “business as usual” for such providers. One implication, of many, is that facilitators, in addition to being ‘subject specialists’ will need to have solid learning-centred teaching & learning expertise …
19th December 2016 at 11:24 am #25004
Hi Kate and Lynel
Interesting comments! I really don’t see how the SETAs will be able to covert all existing qualifications into the new format by March next year! They are all closed now for the holidays and don’t reopen until the 2nd week of January 17! That give them 2 1/2 months to finish all their work! And I certainly know of one SETA that will DEFINETLY NOT be meeting this requirement! So my thought is now what! Something else to bring up at the QCTO meeting!
19th December 2016 at 11:26 am #25003
Hi Janelle, you are absolutely right! Timeframes are not possible at all – it will take a miracle. It is most definately a crucial point to address in the QCTO sessions!
19th December 2016 at 12:18 pm #25002
The March deadline is tight, and not without delays and issues. It is highly likely that there will be qualifications not in the QCTO format by the end March, and ones that are in “pre-delivery’ processes. The majority of QAPs /SETAs have been working at a neck breaking pace on the curriculum conversions this past year, prioritising them according to uptake demand, in order to meet the March deadline. Not all qualifications will be converted – those with little to no uptake over the past 2 years will not be converted, and an interim process for teach-out will apply.
19th December 2016 at 1:33 pm #25001
Hi Kate – I agree with you that some SETAs have been working really hard on this. What concerns me is that there are very strong qualifications in management and the like that are not going to be ready nor are the curriculi (correct spelling?) being looked at – to my knowledge. These are very popular qualifications and have a big uptake but the responsible SETA is very slow in development!
19th December 2016 at 2:53 pm #25000
I see various problems that are going to mess this whole process up and a possible educational CRASH/disaster in S.A. There are Setas that are refusing to acknowledge that some “unit standards” and/or qualifications are in use – for what reasons? Who knows? Then there are SETAs that really are pushing to get things done. Unfortunately we do not have consistency across all the SETAs, which will be the down fall for those who are actively involved and want to make it work.
The data backlogs of the Setas will continue – we know they are battling with capacity – but nothing is being done to help them get on track, and the reality of what mess this is in, will not be revealed to the QCTO or to DHET, as the Setas are giving information they have, and not the backlogs or data that have been sitting for months, years, unattended to, ignored etc. If DHET and QCTO work closer to Providers, they could get a lot of information, realise how bad the situation really is, this will be a big eye opener on outstanding issues which have been ignored by the Setas. The situation is going to get steamy hot, and by the time that those Power Authorities realise how big these issues are, it might be too late.
I will prepare myself for the worse, be ready for a complete melt down in the education sector.
If we look at the “November 2016” updated list of Qualifications on the QCTO website, then we can see clearly that we are approaching a disaster – the capacity is not sufficient, the timeframes are not stipulated, no deadlines for completion. To look at this in summary, it goes like this:
- Qualifications in the “Application” phase is standing on 36 entries dating back to 2011 (turning a blind eye and completely ignoring the date received for the Occupation: Military Commander: 03 July 1905)
- Qualifications in the “Curriculum and Assessment Specification Development” phase is standing on 115 entries/qualifications – whereby some of these “Occupations” have been received dating back as far as January 2011.
- Qualifications in the “Pre-Scoping” Phase is standing on 42 entries going back as far as 2012 – there are various “status and date received” that is left blank.
- Qualifications in the “Profiling” Phase is standing on 27 entries going back as far as 2011
- Qualifications in the “Qualification in Evaluation Process” is standing on 75 entries going back as far as 2011
- Qualifications in the “Recommended to SAQA for Registration” phase is standing on 25 entries going back as far as January 2011.
- Qualifications in the “Scoping” phase is currently standing on 20 entries going back as far as 2011.
- Qualifications in the “Submission to Council” phase is standing on 33 entries going back as far as 2011
- On some policies there are reference to the criteria and registration of Assessors – a confusing aspect, as it is not clarified or detailed enough to make any sense or conclusion. Is there going to be registrations similar to the Assessor/Moderator registrations that we had for many years at the SETAs? I mean, you had to study and get specific credits/unit standards in order to become a constituent Assessor/Moderator – what happens now?
- How many qualifications need to be re-aligned?
I rest my case………………… DHET and QCTO have a task that seems to be impossible to tackle. How will they streamline this process without additional problems/issues? I am not sure who is taking more strain, DHET or QCTO?
And so the saga continues with little progress and increasing concerns nationwide. When will we see everything coming together? How will learners be affected? How can we assist DHET and QCTO with this massive task? How do we support them (I mean, come on, we are thousands of ETD Practitioners/Providers that will offer assistance. We know very well what the meaning of quality is …………….. if only they knew what expertise this portal have …………….
11th January 2017 at 7:03 am #24999
Good Day Members, is there anyone that received any additional information regarding the Legacy Qualifications to possibly be extended to 2020 as well? We need to keep an eye on this!
11th January 2017 at 10:42 am #24998
QCTO will be issuing a statement on this issue shortly.
Nothing has been made public as yet.
This is according to communication I received today directly from QCTO.
11th January 2017 at 10:45 am #24997
Hi Des, that is fantastic. Thank you so much. We will await this statement! I have searched for any possible public statement, but have not seen any. I even tried “tweeting” SAQA, but no response have been received thus far. Thank you so much for your assistance, highly appreciated.
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