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Services Seta Update: Services Sector Provider Forum is Established

To All Services SETA Training Providers, Lead Employers, Host Employers, SDFs, Independents, Professional Bodies, Assessors, Moderators, Facilitators, Suppliers, including all Learners and Interns represented by Lead Employers and Providers, those not directly affiliated who attended, this morning as well as those in absentia due to prior commitments; your overwhelming positive responses and support to my call for action to form a collective following the events of recent pertaining to the Services SETA, are applauded and appreciated to the benefit of the industry, learners and interns as a whole. Thank you for your time invested and valuable contribution.

 

I am pleased to provide an update on the events and outcomes on the day as promised.

 

1. Last minute attempts were made in hope of having either Dr. Moon (Administrator and Chairperson) or Mr. Devan Naiker (Acting CEO) address the forum. Unfortunately, Dr. Moon had prior important commitments and Mr Naiker had communicated that he was unable to attend due to the Services SETA being under Administration. Subsequently, with due respect and appreciation, moments before the forum commenced, a letter was received from Dr. Moon, (as here attached) confirming the current status quo. Dr. Moon  reassures providers that payments will be forthcoming and that all processes will continue pertaining to the SETA’S and ETQA obligations.

 

2. In addition, communication was received regarding the Skills Development Act/Policy which is under review and calls for comment. A key area of concern that cannot be overlooked.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. 3. The meeting resulted in an independent collective being established in support and representation of the Services Sector under the banner of: Services Sector Provider Forum (SSPF). The committee and chair have been voted and a formal notification will be posted tomorrow.

 

In conclusion, many more questions were raised and the Chair committed to compiling the required communication in view of obtaining the necessary answers and clarity.

 

All parties that are seeking to serve or partake in the forum kindly please email lyn.mansour@klmempowered.com

 

Further details and an update will follow.

 

Plato
Music is the movement of sound to reach the soul for the education of its virtue.

 

 

Lyn Mansour

 

 

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Thank you for the update Lynn.  Alan will add to the mail going out today with all the draft amendments to skills development and regulations - see Forum section.
"independent collective being established in support and representation of the Services Sector"

Im not sure what the goal of this collective is. How will it support the service sector? How will it represent it? Does this forum have some sort of mission or goal that it wants to achieve? is there an action plan?
tnx
De Wet

I applaud the efforts that Lyn Mansour has gone to with regard to establishing dialogue with the government department concerned and I congratulate her. I do feel how ever that we were not treated correctly in terms of being notified about the whole situation. We must not be seen as going cap in hand to seek a solution but rather to demand our constitutional rights that prevail in this situation. I realise that payment must be made in the immediate short term and that a lot of training providers cash flow is going to be seriously affected.We should persue this further. It is the constitutional right of every citizen to be educated in this country whether through SETA's or otherwise. The department of higher education should have thought of these matters before they made this decision. I realise in the short term a soft approach is needed to get the payments done but why did Lynn have to do this? I am glad she did. The depatrment is at fault. The rights of learners are not being cared for and this is what should be spelt out. This is what the department should know. A lot of us in the education field need to be more outspoken and to constructively criticise the governmnet departments concerned. Do not let us adopt a cap in hand approach.

 

I salute you, Lyn

Sylvia thank you for the assistance provided and Alan's updates on the Skills development and regulation.

 

There is so much happening concurrently it is difficult to keep up. The 21 days given for comment on the amended skills development policy seems like no time at all.  Please keep us posted.

sylvia hammond said:

Thank you for the update Lynn.  Alan will add to the mail going out today with all the draft amendments to skills development and regulations - see Forum section.

 

Hi Dries

Thank you for your support.

Going back on the site, it was interesting to read your posted comments from 2009 that call for action on behalf of the private providers. Was there a response or a meeting in this regard?

                                                                                             
Dries de Kock said:

I salute you, Lyn

Hi Grant

 

You are absolutely right. So much is at stake with so many thousands directly impacted by the decision that had been taken without prior consultation or pre-notification.When services have been rendered and meet all the contractual requirements by which we as providers, suppliers, lead employer, learners and interns are obliged to do, by the same token, payment by the Service SETA by virtue of the contract has to be honoured as it should be within the time frames as stipulated therein of 30 days from date of invoice.  Non adherence to the terms of reference by either party automatically constitutes a contractual breach. According to the Services SETA contracts, should the breach not be resolved within 7 days, the matter then escalates to Arbitration. Cap in hand is by no means the intention in this case, but more, as a firm believer in engaging in dialogue, is to exhaust all efforts of mediation before litigation. Following the correspondence received from Dr. S Moon, yesterday 28th April, re the confirmation of payments and services as usual, I am confident that Dr Moon's written confirmation and commitment to pay all outstanding monies due will be honoured.

 

Your comments and encouragement are valued, thank you.

 

SSPF Chairperson:Lyn Mansour


Grant Cooper said:

I applaud the efforts that Lyn Mansour has gone to with regard to establishing dialogue with the government department concerned and I congratulate her. I do feel how ever that we were not treated correctly in terms of being notified about the whole situation. We must not be seen as going cap in hand to seek a solution but rather to demand our constitutional rights that prevail in this situation. I realise that payment must be made in the immediate short term and that a lot of training providers cash flow is going to be seriously affected.We should persue this further. It is the constitutional right of every citizen to be educated in this country whether through SETA's or otherwise. The department of higher education should have thought of these matters before they made this decision. I realise in the short term a soft approach is needed to get the payments done but why did Lynn have to do this? I am glad she did. The depatrment is at fault. The rights of learners are not being cared for and this is what should be spelt out. This is what the department should know. A lot of us in the education field need to be more outspoken and to constructively criticise the governmnet departments concerned. Do not let us adopt a cap in hand approach.

 

Hi De Wet

 

Thank you for raising some valid questions.

 

The formation of our collective has been the result of the potential crisis that has recently arisen. As a collective we have a greater opportunity of obtaining the answers to the many questions that still remain unanswered.

 

Our industry collectively, including the learners and interns currently on projects, are at extreme risk of a looming financial and people crisis which needs immediate action.

 

At this point, there is only one mission front of mind for the SSPF and that is the much needed resolution to the current situation, thereafter and for continuance, our roles, purpose, responsibilities, missions and the far reaching benefits thereto with be determined collectively and therafter formalised.

 

The SSPF is currently sector specific and has recently become a collective voice on behalf of the people who have earned their right to be recognised and respected for the outstanding value they constantly contribute to up-skilling of our unemployed youth and mature citizens across South Africa, for the job creation they create, for the investment they continue to make into customising and aligning training material that is business and economy specific, for the distances they travel to take learning to the people and the logistics and project management they have mastered; and for the significant difference they contribute to communities and society on whole through the power of education, practical application, remediation and self actualisation by instilling hope, reaffirming faith and building national unity.

 

Any suggestions, concerns and comments would be welcomed.

 

SSPF Chairperson: Lyn Mansour

De Wet said:

"independent collective being established in support and representation of the Services Sector"

Im not sure what the goal of this collective is. How will it support the service sector? How will it represent it? Does this forum have some sort of mission or goal that it wants to achieve? is there an action plan?
tnx
De Wet

Hi Lyn,

I think that we will find that the changes to the Skills Development Act are in fact the mirror images of the changes proposed to the BCEA, LRA, and EE, which were all published with the Temporary Employment Services Bill.  At the time that we posted them, they didn't attract much attention or comment.  Look in the Blog section 17 February, or search at the top right for BCEA. 

Lyn Mansour said:

Sylvia thank you for the assistance provided and Alan's updates on the Skills development and regulation.

 

There is so much happening concurrently it is difficult to keep up. The 21 days given for comment on the amended skills development policy seems like no time at all.  Please keep us posted.

sylvia hammond said:

Thank you for the update Lynn.  Alan will add to the mail going out today with all the draft amendments to skills development and regulations - see Forum section.

 

Hi Lyn

Well done for your work, i may not fully support what Ivor has done but your efforts cant go unnoticed, form me well done, may you have the courage and strength to raise awarenes for the interest of the stakeholders at services seta.

 

Regards

Abisael

Hi Abisael

 

Your honesty is respected and your comments appreciated, thank you.

 

Irrespective of the current situation, we must not lose site of the great contribution and leadership of Dr. Ivor Blumenthal in combination with the Executive and Management of the SERVICES SETA has made over the past number of years. Yes, undoubtedly there have been many challenges and "bumps in the road" along the way which are all relative service providers, suppliers and Lead Employers that have paid dearly due to these gross inadequacies. However, and without dismissing the impact that these setbacks and challenges have had on many, in comparison to the maladministration and fraudulent activities of so many other SETAs, fortunately the Services SETA's shortcomings are nowhere close. 

These collaborated and relentless efforts have resulted in making the Services SETA one of the leading SETAs in the portfolio of SETAs and one of the wealthiest. Sadly, as with the business world, things do change. Sometimes for the greater good and sometimes with much adversity. We can only hope that the leadership irrespective of whom, has the ability to raise the bar, take a stand and realise the value and contribution thus far already made by the leadership and management of the Services SETA,  the many private training providers, suppliers and Lead Employers to thousands and thousands of learners and interns across the country.

 

It is our aim as a collective body the - SSPF to ensure that the our unwavering commitment to skills development in both rural South Africa and across the national metropolis continues to bring empowerment to the people through knowledge and skills transfer that is real to the world in which we live.

 

SSPF Chairperson: Lyn Mansour 

Abisael Michael Mohahabe said:

 

Hi Lyn

Well done for your work, i may not fully support what Ivor has done but your efforts cant go unnoticed, form me well done, may you have the courage and strength to raise awarenes for the interest of the stakeholders at services seta.

 

Regards

Abisael

Dear Lyn,

Well done and thank you for all your efforts.  You are a superstar :)

We are all behind your great efforts.

Zelda Rose

 

 

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