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Riding the Crest of the Dialogue Wave in KZN - Good News Friday

Minister Blade Nzimande addressed a Services Seta roadshow and assured delegates that it is not his intension to do away with Private Providers.


Dear TAPPP Members and all Prospective Members

 

I am pleased to report TAPPP had the pleasure of attending the Minister's first Road Show in KZN on Friday 20th May 2011 and the early start to what was to be a superb day was well worth the effort and the expense.

 

The Services SETA KZN were the organisers of a well orchestrated event and the welcome and assistance offered by the Regional Manager, Nerusha Beecum and of Moloko Ramohlale from the H/O was highly appreciated.

 

The event opened with the Ministers Advisor and the appointed Administrator to the Services SETA Dr.S.Moon welcomed the delegates.

 

The Honourable Minister Nzimande addressed a large audience and whereby the Minister's dialogue was well received by all present. An opportunity was provided for the audience to ask questions and the Minister responded thereafter, allowing TAPPP the platform to raise the pertinent questions that had been requested by our members from the Profession and Industry alike.

 

The Minister addressed the concerns and stressed that it is not his intension to do away with Private Providers. He further stressed that the investigation was into tenderpreneurs, unsatisfactory quality, exploitation of discretionary grants to the Domestic projects whereby R 45 000 was paid per Learner for 19 days of training. He made reference to Short Courses and that 98% of funds have been spent where there is no impact. He referred to the 20 000 Public FET graduates that where sitting at home unemployed and asked how come they were not targeted for Learnerships, he addressed the importance that the function of the ETQA if brought in-house and managed accordingly. He also commented that learnerships had not addressed the needs of graduates who are at home unemployed. The importance of Public Private Partnerships was highlighted and reiterated. The Minister further confirmed that the NSDS 111 is here to focus on addressing Governments national priorities which were paramount.

 

On behalf of TAPPP, comments made by the Minister were questioned, re:

1. The Short Courses versus full qualifications

2. The R 45 000.00 per Learner paid versus R 16 000 per learner on a full qualification

3. The 20 000 unemployed graduates from Public FET's - what were the Public FETs doing about it

4. What did the future hold for Private Providers?

5. Were there going to be Learnerships and Internships this year

6. The lack of clarity on all these agendas

7. What is the future for Private Providers?

 

Due to limited time, more questions will be raised at the forum today.

 

The Minister announced that he is open for continued dialogue and he is happy to meet on this Agenda.  On behalf of TAPPP, the Minister was approached regarding his suggestion of continued dialogue. I was humbled at the Ministers positive response and his willingness to have this arranged via his Chief of Staff. – A very exciting time for TAPPP indeed.

 

TAPPP looks forward to providing our members with an update of these events and the results thereof. We urge our members, the entire Professional and Industry to attend a session in your region.

 

It was a pleasure meeting members and signing new members at KZN and the vast interest shown and positive comments received in favour of TAPPP is heartfelt, thank you.

 

To conclude on a very positive note, I can confirm that payment was processed on Friday afternoon and I am sure there is a big sigh of relief nationally.  We thank acting CEO Mr Devan Naiker for his confirmation and follow through on ensuring that the payments were processed.

 

We trust that all payments will be forthcoming on the due dates as per the invoices sent to the Services SETA subject to compliance.

 

It's Monday 23rd May and we hope it be as positive as a day at the Beach in KZN.

 

We look forward to meeting all our existing members and those that are interested to sign up with TAPPP at Gold Reef City in the morning.

 

" The symphony of sound is music to my ears"

 

TAPPP Chairperson: Lyn Mansour

 

Tags: blade, nzimande, services, seta, tappp

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Thanks for the feedback Lyn. I just hope they answer those question on time before we loose business over the Internship programs this year unlike 2010 were we have to run internships without the Services Seta because of pressure from the companies that are looking at employing this graduates. 

 

Thanks again for the good work you guys are doing to get messages out there for us.

Dear Lyn,

             Congratulations to you and Services SETA for organizing the event; and I really appreciate the brief synopsis outlining the main points made by the Minister. It is only my regret that I was not able to attend.

I would like to know what the Minister might add to the posed questions, especially the future of Private Providers, because I forsee troubled waters ahead, particularly for the smaller providers.

Already colleagues of mine are realising that certain survival steps have to take place.

However in the National Interest the Minister had to take action because as he says: to date some of the SETA's have not been a vehicle for change, widespread skills training or assisting in the arena of employment for the youth.

 

Sincerely

 

Paul Germain

Hi Johannes

 

We are pleased to be of assistance and yes, the window for the next cycle on interships and learnerships has still not been addressed. Personally, I think it would be a great idea to start negotiating with Employers a way forward in hosting self funded interns on internships and not wait for what might be too long winded for this year anyway.

 

I am sure the Minister will have to address this soonest and when we have an update on this agenda, we will revert.

 

TAPPP Chairperson: Lyn Mansour



Johannes Mongatane said:

Thanks for the feedback Lyn. I just hope they answer those question on time before we loose business over the Internship programs this year unlike 2010 were we have to run internships without the Services Seta because of pressure from the companies that are looking at employing this graduates. 

 

Thanks again for the good work you guys are doing to get messages out there for us.


Hi Paul

 

Thank you for your positive and welcomed response to TAPPP.

 

Firstly, I must correct you in your assumption, TAPPP has been present at the events and at no time participating. TAPPP cannot take credit for the organisation of such as this has been organised by the Minister's office and the Services SETA.

 

TAPPP is proactive in our stance in favour of our members who service the Industry and who are representative of the ETD Profession, totally independent and non political.

 

In response to your concerns as raised, there is no doubt that the Minister's workload is mammoth as is that of the SETAs and all Providers. We have to see the benefits of collaboration and be smart in our business strategy, which at this point is difficult due to the uncertaintity of the when, the what and the how. Business has to be mindful not to focus on waiting but more so be proactive and explore creative ways as Private Providers to aid in resolving the challenges as per the National priorities and strategy.

 

ITo answer your question, is there a future for Private Providers? Absolutely if you deliver on all requirements and contribute to the growth of a nation. Is there a future for Private Providers that are unscrupulous, the quick buck brigade and tenderpreneurs of our times - Absolutely not!

 

TAPPP CHairperson: Lyn Mansour


Paul Germain said:

Dear Lyn,

             Congratulations to you and Services SETA for organizing the event; and I really appreciate the brief synopsis outlining the main points made by the Minister. It is only my regret that I was not able to attend.

I would like to know what the Minister might add to the posed questions, especially the future of Private Providers, because I forsee troubled waters ahead, particularly for the smaller providers.

Already colleagues of mine are realising that certain survival steps have to take place.

However in the National Interest the Minister had to take action because as he says: to date some of the SETA's have not been a vehicle for change, widespread skills training or assisting in the arena of employment for the youth.

 

Sincerely

 

Paul Germain

Hi Paul

Having attended the meeting yesterday at Gold Reef City I tend to agree with you. Apart from the inevitable political 

rhetoric the honourable Minister said nothing I had not heard at the launch of NSDS III.

What was of concern was the failure of the minister to reassure the SMME provider.

Question time turned out to be a personal gripe session or alternatively an "A.. Creeping" session - Personally I was disappointed as were the group sitting in my immediate vicinity.



Paul Germain said:

Dear Lyn,

             Congratulations to you and Services SETA for organizing the event; and I really appreciate the brief synopsis outlining the main points made by the Minister. It is only my regret that I was not able to attend.

I would like to know what the Minister might add to the posed questions, especially the future of Private Providers, because I forsee troubled waters ahead, particularly for the smaller providers.

Already colleagues of mine are realising that certain survival steps have to take place.

However in the National Interest the Minister had to take action because as he says: to date some of the SETA's have not been a vehicle for change, widespread skills training or assisting in the arena of employment for the youth.

 

Sincerely

 

Paul Germain

Dear Lyn,

  It was an honour to meet you on Monday.Awaiting your reply patiently.

  Dave Naidoo

Dear Dave

 

Thank you, the sentiments are shared. I am pleased that you have registered on the Skills Universe as suggested and I trust that you have made contact with CIMAP re any RPL requirements you might have on your extension of scope for Contact Centre NQF Level 2 constituency. In the interim please make contact with Sharon or Michael Haig from the

Contact Centre Management Group  who are also representative on the TAPPP Steering Committee. I am confident that the CCMG presents a superb platform for CPD and the opportunity for networking and partnering in the field of Contact Centre specialisations. Please call CCMG on 011 704 0757 for more information.

 This famous quote from Og Mandino always inspires me and I hope it does the same for you

~ Each misfortune you encounter will carry in it the seed of tomorrow's good luck. ~

Og Mandino

 Wishing you a most fruitful journey ahead. We look forward to keeping you updated on TAPPP and to having you on board as a valued member.

 

TAPPP Chairperson: Lyn Mansour



Dave Naidoo said:

Dear Lyn,

  It was an honour to meet you on Monday.Awaiting your reply patiently.

  Dave Naidoo

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