WHAT is considered a FAIR daily rate for Facilitators who freelance and are contracted by accredited Training Providers.
YES, rates of pay are determined by supply and demand for Facilitators, Assessors and Moderators who are not covered by Wage Agreements like our Teachers, Nurses and other organised sectors.
Training Facilitators are the new "estate agents" in that there is a growing number of individuals who, for various reasons, promote their skills as "sole proprietorships". These entrepreneurs compete with each other and with permanently employed Facilitators / Trainers for a share of the Training market.
BUT what is an acceptable, competitive and market related daily rate for a Facilitator????? And for an Assessor or Moderator ?????
We have heard Facilitator rates of pay bandied about of R 800.00 per day to R 5 000.00 per day - what is your experience?
Are Facilitators paid seperately - and more - for designing Course Material ? If so what are the market related rates for Course design.
LET US ALL ASSIST EACH OTHER by understanding acceptable and market-related rates of pay for Facilitators, Assessors and Moderators ......
Please share your views .......
This is a very interesting topic because of the wide range of pricing out there!! I have facilitated SA Host workshops for theta and other training and we get paid R5000 a day. On some occassions this has meant a trip to Bloemfontein. Those in Bloemfontein got paid the same R5000 but obviously were in the right place for the debrief!!!
I do quite a lot of work for TEP which is Tourism Enterprise project. There the payment is anything from R3200 for the day for a basic cusstomer care course to R4500 for the day when dealing business skills, marketing and computer internet training. They also pay R2.80 per km for petrol and if you travel hotel and all meals, lunch being covered by what we eat on the workshop. I gave a rate of R2500 the other day and did not get the job because I was too expensive!! I have been in the business a long time. Surely my expertise counts. In most jobs you get a yearly rise. We are always cut down to the cost of a new trainer on the block!!
I would like to use this forum to also discuss the tendering norm if possible. I was asked to do the work as an accreditered provider for someone who got the original tender. A tender we did not get and I have since heard we were the lower price!! I am appalled at how much you end up getting paid for doing everything. The provider who is not accreditered gets the tender and pays you minimum for your accreditation and expertise. Do we not have industry norms. As part of this skills universe should we not all try to be part of a best practise agreement where we are fair!!
There are various factors regardsing fees payable, and one would need to look perhaps at the following when determining costs:
Is the fee just for facilitation; Is the programme designed by the facilitator, or is the facilitator presenting someone elses material; Is the facilitator presenting on a scare skill, i.e., not many other people have the specific skill or qualification; Is the fee inclusive or exclsuive of travel, accommodation; venue hire, files/handouts, etc.
Years of experience and reputation also play a large role
I have also found that the industry in which you practice, for example, hospitality, security, banking, etc. does have an impact in terms of what is affordable for that particular industry/client, and that the facilitator could adjsut thier cost accordingly.
As with Doctors, there are set rates, but we are always willing to pay for specialist skills - just as with facilitators.
I know of providers who quote enormous amounts per assessment [as part of the total “course cost”] and then pay the assessor R50, 00 per assessment [not even paying for second or third attempts assessments]... Providers quoting R5 – 15 000, 00 per U/S for developments and them pay the actual developer R 200, 00 per Course [integrating two or three U/S]. My personal opinion at this point is.....greed...
How many of you are aware of the fact that the South African Labour Force is considered as one of the most [if not the most] expensive in the world...?
It’s nice to be paid R5000, 00 per day [excluding expenses], but how much of that money actually gets to the person performing the actual work?
I followed a number of discussions on Skills Universe relating to pricing up to now..... And have to be honest - I am shocked – assessors being paid up to R1000, 00 per assessment..? What is the cost of the course then? That is if/that the provider can afford this price? I actually went as far as posting an “article” on Skills Universe inviting providers to contact me directly for “better prices” relating to assessments; moderations and developments – till today I have not received ANY response... Makes you wonder...