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Jackie Franck replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Also refer to this link: http://www.sars.gov.za/TaxTypes/UIF/Pages/default.aspx Look at the intro paragraph and second point under WHO IS IT FOR? I'm in agreement with Chris and Christine.  Our 18.2 learners are unemployed before…"
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sylvia hammond replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Thank you all - some comments - Heidi I meant previously unemployed before commencing the learnership agreement and employment contract.  But I see from Janine's response that this can happen in successful. Chris I understand that they…"
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Chris Gengan replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Heidi I am on 083 667 7392"
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Christine Maritz replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Leon, yes you are correct, when you flag the person on the payroll as a learner, then the company is exempt from paying SDL on the learner, and learner exempt from UIF. Christine."
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Janine Basson-Hermanus replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Sylvia In my opinion the 18.2 learner is somebody that was previously unemployed, never went on a learnership before etc. With the new codes and due to the bonus points, when it talks about absorbing a learner into the market it…"
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Heidi D Edwards replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Contributors, More info on deductions from the Department of Labour: http://www.labour.gov.za/DOL/legislation/acts/basic-guides/basic-guide-to-deductions-learnerships"
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Leon & Elsabe Diederichs replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Does anybody know if UIF has to be deducted from the stipends received?? I assume not."
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Leon & Elsabe Diederichs replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Sylvia I agree with Chris. "18.2 as we define it is people coming into business for skills development that receive a stipend and do NOT receive other employee benefits like medical aid, pension etc." And I assume they…"
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Heidi D Edwards replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Chris, So your 18.2s are unemployed, i.e. not employed by you during the time of training (the duration of the Learnership).  If any are taken on (employed as full time employees) at the end of the Learnership, i.e. absorbed, then the…"
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Janine Louise Crocker replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"We have been doing learnerships since the pilot project was started.  I believe that once an unemployed learners (and they are still classified as unemployed by SETA while on learnership) is deemed competent then the contracts…"
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Christine Maritz replied to Des Squire's discussion Employment Equity report 2014/15
"Hi Des - thank you for this.  I am sitting at this moment working our our EE Plan and reporting.  Not easy, I must say.  Not always easy to retain the staff who leave for greener pastures, are very expensive to come by, don't…"
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Chris Gengan replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Sylvia We have hundreds of 18.2 Learners in our company as they are listed as such in all our reporting including B-BBEE, Tax Reliefs, PIVOTAL WSP/ATR etc. etc. 18.2 as we define it is people coming into business for skills development that…"
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Heidi D Edwards replied to sylvia hammond's discussion Are 18(2) learners on learnerships "employees"? in the group The Learnership Group
"Hi Sylvia, Very interesting question.  I don't have answers - just c omments. Q - you wrote "18.2 (previously unemployed)" - I always thought an '18.2' is an unemployed person, not a 'previously unemployed'…"
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    Started by Gwendoline Hoch in Accreditation, training material, assessment 6 hours ago. 0 Replies

    I am looking for a young company to come in with us on a tender.  The tender requires us to take a young company on board to build capacity in the process.  Please give me a call Gwen 0833064376Continue

    30/70 Principle

    Started by Jainni Olivier in Accreditation, training material, assessment 22 hours ago. 0 Replies

    On a learnership how much time will you calculate as reasonable time allowed by an employer to perform activities required for the completion of the POE.Surely we can not expect the employer to allocate the whole day, 5 days a week till next contact…Continue

    Employment Equity report 2014/15

    Started by Des Squire in Employment Equity. Last reply by Christine Maritz 3 hours ago. 2 Replies

     More than Seventy of South Africa’s larger companies are the first to face court action over their failure to comply with employment equity legislation. The total number to be prosecuted is 1400. The need for transformation must now be taken…Continue

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    Introverts, business and effective growth

    Posted by Chantel Harris on July 30, 2015 at 14:46 0 Comments

    The long assumption has been that some people are shy and some others are outgoing; that people just are either of these, not a semblance of both. Yet, as we’ve all come to realise, people are too complicated to be considered one or the other - rather, we should talk about the kinds of behaviour we’re more likely to display, not what we will or always display.

    Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Elizabeth Bernstein…

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    Written Warnings and Dismissals

    Posted by Nicole van Eeden on July 27, 2015 at 11:33 5 Comments

    When compiling a written warning or notification to attend a disciplinary it is extremely important that the charges are correctly formulated. 

    Theft is a prime example: to charge the employee with “theft” is not sufficient and additional charges must be incorporated.  The reason we address other things relating to the theft is that it is not always proven in a disciplinary hearing that the act of “theft” was complete and the employee is then found not guilty.  It could be that the…

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    Red flags in the interview process

    Posted by Chantel Harris on July 20, 2015 at 14:30 0 Comments

    When starting out a new romantic relationship, there are certain warning signs that will tell you to back away, like being over 30 with no inclination to move out from the parent’s basement, or having an unhealthy obsession with taxidermy.

    In much the same way, there are certain red flags that will help you know that an employee is not going to be a right fit for your company. You want to be on the lookout for these early on, before any contracts have been…

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    Latest DHET Documents published for comment

    Posted by sylvia hammond on July 14, 2015 at 18:07 11 Comments

    Skills-universe members will be interested to see two documents published for comment:

    DHET National Policy on Continuing Education Colleges GG38924 gon569 for comment

    This document is a must read for everyone working in the area of AET. It explains the administrative and…

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    Can computer software replace the job of an HR?

    Posted by Chantel Harris on July 13, 2015 at 10:00 0 Comments

    The aim of computer software is to make the task of a human resource manager easier. However, the way in which the HR utilises and executes a task is up to them. Modern technology has advanced throughout the years, and the fear we should all have is; will machine take away my job? The answer is, not quite -especially not if you are the HR of a major company. Human interaction is still required in all aspects of keeping employees happy. Human Resource Software may help track employee…

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    MASSVIVE OPEN ONLINE COLLEGE SOUTH AFRICA

    Posted by Wilma de Villiers on July 10, 2015 at 22:15 2 Comments

    Some of you might remember that I posted a blog about online learning.  I enrolled for a free course, "MOOCS and the South African Higher Education Landscape" (moocs.org.za).  I have learnt a few interesting facts about online learning and find the discussions interesting.

    The assignments are done in the form of a blog.  Specific topics are identified.  I have copied and pasted the following from my latest blog:

    "The landscape of higher education has changed tremendously over…

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